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  On 02/09/2023 at 20:31, Abacus said:

 

There's nothing defensive in your post there, mate, nor any need to be.

 

Because I completely agree - suspect it was just him straight-batting questions because he doesn't feel any value in a public inquisition, when he's got a group of players that will probably be feeling a bit bruised. He probably will be himself.

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Exactly. I reckon of all people Howe is probably feeling most frustrated and disappointed, dare I say it, fans included.

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  On 02/09/2023 at 20:31, Ben said:

I don't agree, if you have 17% possession in a game of football you do deserve to win.

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Goals win games not having the ball. There's more than one way to skin a cat.  West Hams defensive organisation and rigidity had Brighton passing square and backwards around the middle third for a lot of the game and every time they broke into the final third they got batted away. West Ham then (as planned) broke and scored with conviction numerous times.

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  On 02/09/2023 at 19:38, Smal said:

Not really. Teams can analyse you and work you out. Both City and Brighton relentlessly exploited the half spaces between our midfield and defence.

 

You need flexibility to counter that and we don’t have a specialist 6 in the entire squad.

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A specialist 6 isn't going to stop multiple players tucking in though. 

 

E.g. City, Bruno already had a man marked but Foden ran off Joelinton. We'd effectively have needed 2 DMs there not just one.

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  On 02/09/2023 at 20:27, Kid Icarus said:

Do people who say 'you can't criticise anything' really think people can't see through what you're doing? :lol: Like, do you think people are that thick?

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Some on here have derailed their otherwise decent arguments because of saying that. A pet hate that rivals "I'm exercising my first amendment rights" for me.

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  On 02/09/2023 at 20:41, Heron said:

Goals win games not having the ball. There's more than one way to skin a cat.  West Hams defensive organisation and rigidity had Brighton passing square and backwards around the middle third for a lot of the game and every time they broke into the final third they got batted away. West Ham then (as planned) broke and scored with conviction numerous times.

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If West Ham played them next week would you say the same result would happen 

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  On 02/09/2023 at 20:32, UncleBingo said:

As disappointing as this evening was, some of the disrespect I've seen towards Howe tonight has sickened me. Going to stay off social media for a while I think.

 

Fickle cunts.

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Two days since a Champions League draw no less.

Qualifying a relegation bound team for the champions league the year after doesn't get you very much equity with some people.

A galling lack of humility.

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  On 02/09/2023 at 20:56, Ben said:

If West Ham played them next week would you say the same result would happen 

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No, because there a probably more than 100 variables that would effect that from happening. One of them being that Brighton could also win with 17% possession.

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Under Howe we've never been through a rough patch without coming out of it looking better than before it. People were saying CL was over when we'd dropped off to 5th or 6th last season.

 

No idea why some are always in such a rush to tell everyone we're doomed. 

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  On 02/09/2023 at 21:01, dave s said:

Some under par performances against some of the top teams in the league. Let’s see how we fair from here after the break. This is the situation where Eddie earns his dough .. let’s support him 

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Agree, but calling these under par performances is an over par understatement.

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  On 02/09/2023 at 20:33, Holloway said:

Sorry lads, a few Stella"s deep and talking shite tbf. But Brighton aren"t total class, they are doing brilliantly for there status,that's it. ?

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Agree, people are going on like Brighton are some super team of massive stars, but they are anything but. It's one thing to be passed off the park by Man City, but when a team which has been selling off it's best players is taking you apart then it's fair to ask questions about our own tactical set up.

 

Our whole game is based on the press, if teams are passing round it, then we need to find another way. Or find a combination of players who can implement the press more effectively.

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  On 02/09/2023 at 21:07, TRon said:

 

Agree, people are going on like Brighton are some super team of massive stars, but they are anything but. It's one thing to be passed off the park by Man City, but when a team which has been selling off it's best players is taking you apart then it's fair to ask questions about our own tactical set up.

 

Our whole game is based on the press, if teams are passing round it, then we need to find another way. Or find a combination of players who can implement the press more effectively.

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Because they are a well drilled system team that occasionally spanks good teams. Neither I nor KI have claimed that they are a super team of massive stars. That's just horse shit hyperbole.

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He desperately needs to pick them back up now.  Shocking display mentally and physically today which I'm not used to. 

 

I can't pinpoint the issue, thought everyone with the exception of Tonali from the starting line up had a shocker today. 

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