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Howe 'Defensively not strong enough - collective mistakes. Fought back well to 2-2 twice. Moments of good play in first half - conceed 4 goals and it's a negative performance in the end. Lack of consistency in 2nd half. Liverpool game took something out of the team - looked tired in certain positions. Players returning to fitness not 100% ready to play/ Gone from not scoring goals a few weeks ago, to not defending well. Confusing and needs to work out why',

 

 

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Didn't see today (or Wednesday) but if it was as abject as West Ham then you do fear for him a bit. Two performances in such quick succession where we've completely lost the plot indicates a pretty serious problem. 

 

Personally hope he's afforded a length of time uncharacteristic to the modern game in order to get it right. 

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:43, Aiston said:

Don't want him sacked at all like a few others.

 

That will change if he continues to prove he cannot adapt anything/ be proactive or motivate the team.

 

 

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I have had this view all season and for last season, when some didn’t buy the injuries excuse. 
 

He just isn’t showing anything that makes me think he can turn it around, though. Played what, 18 games league and cup? Nearly halfway through the season. Mostly been uninspiring or crap

performances and looked a shadow of our former selves. 
 

We never seem to be able to find consistency or play two halves remotely the same. We now have a strong bench. But usually look worse once subs are made. Forest, Wolves and Bournemouth being the main ones that stand out in my mind as actually working or improving our chances. 
 

Too many players look out of form and all. It isn’t a coincidence IMO. I don’t see why so many players would be below their levels all at the same time/all season. 

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:47, Big Geordie said:

Howe 'Defensively not strong enough - collective mistakes. Fought back well to 2-2 twice. Moments of good play in first half - conceed 4 goals and it's a negative performance in the end. Lack of consistency in 2nd half. Liverpool game took something out of the team - looked tired in certain positions. Players returning to fitness not 100% ready to play/ Gone from not scoring goals a few weeks ago, to not defending well. Confusing and needs to work out why',

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The inconsistency at both ends of the pitch speaks to a wider issue with the balance of the team and the formation we're playing. If we sit back to much, Isak is isolated but the defense improves through force of numbers. If we push on too much, we get caught. 

 

I always think goal difference is a relatively reliable barometer of where a club should be after a sizeable number of games. I'm pretty sure ours is 13th best in the league right now. 

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:54, Yorkie said:

Didn't see today (or Wednesday) but if it was as abject as West Ham then you do fear for him a bit. Two performances in such quick succession where we've completely lost the plot indicates a pretty serious problem. 

 

Personally hope he's afforded a length of time uncharacteristic to the modern game in order to get it right. 

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2nd half was worse than West Ham 

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:54, Yorkie said:

Didn't see today (or Wednesday) but if it was as abject as West Ham then you do fear for him a bit. Two performances in such quick succession where we've completely lost the plot indicates a pretty serious problem. 

 

Personally hope he's afforded a length of time uncharacteristic to the modern game in order to get it right. 

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First half was brilliant for

the most part. Second half was very similar to West Ham. Fuck all in the way of chances, team went to shit after a goal and the changes we made. 
 

Nowhere near as woeful as Palace and we got a point there. But I’ve seen that second half one too many times now. 

 

 

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:57, Lush Vlad said:


First half was brilliant. Second half was very similar to West Ham. Fuck all in the way of chances, team went to shit after a goal and the changes we made. 
 

Nowhere near as woeful as Palace and we got a point there. But I’ve seen that second half one too many times now. 

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Attacking wise sure, but awful defensively. Second half we were awful in both ends.

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:54, Yorkie said:

Didn't see today (or Wednesday) but if it was as abject as West Ham then you do fear for him a bit. Two performances in such quick succession where we've completely lost the plot indicates a pretty serious problem. 

 

Personally hope he's afforded a length of time uncharacteristic to the modern game in order to get it right. 

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Think he will be giving time because of the CEO situation and us likely going to SF of League Cup. Can't change a manager when direction isn't fully there at the highest level, but for him to stay for 25/26, he needs to hit some serious run in new year where the issues look to be fixed.

 

Based on past 12 months, that's highly unlikely as the same issues are still clearly there.

 

 

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:44, Sibierski said:

Don't think he's sacked during season, but decisions will be made that he's off end of season unless he plucks a cup out of his ass.

 

I'd want us to try and get a top name if we mean business. Inzaghi would be my dream.

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He's not leaving Inter for us. 

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