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11 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:


Agreed with the patience it’s just because it’s Bruce really and I don’t trust him at all ?

 

At least he'll have a noose around what he can or can't say where I don't think Ashley really cared what came out of his mouth. :lol: 

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13 minutes ago, The Bonk said:

 

At least he'll have a noose around what he can or can't say where I don't think Ashley really cared what came out of his mouth. :lol: 

His press conference tomorrow (if he makes it to 1:30pm) will be an entertaining watch ?

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1 hour ago, The Bonk said:

 

:thup: Fair enough, but I think we also need to exercise patience as we're now run by a consortium and humans with another level of business acumen than Ashley and his cronies ever had. Even with Bruce on the touchline, I think we can win games between now and the end of his tenure. 

I doubt it, tbh. Absolutely nothing that he's served up on the pitch so far this season suggests otherwise.

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We have Steve Bruce, our standards have been so low for so long that im amazed anyone would turn their nose up at a Martinez or Emery and its going to be a journey that will probably see a turnover of managers on next 5 years.

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I thought it was because Paratici wanted someone more conservative, or at least that's the narrative Fonseca played https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12415204/paulo-fonseca-says-tottenhams-fabio-paratici-pulled-out-of-deal-to-appoint-him-over-his-attacking-football

 

He told Telegraph Sport: "The agreement was done. We were planning the pre-season and Tottenham wanted an offensive coach. It wasn't announced but we planned pre-season players.

 

"But things changed when the new managing director arrived and we didn't agree with some ideas and he preferred another coach.

 

"I have some principles. I wanted to be coach of the great teams but I want the right project and a club where the people believe in my ideas, my way to play, and this didn't happen with the managing director.

 

"It's what the chairman (Daniel Levy) and the sporting director (Steve Hitchen) asked for: to build a team who can play attractive and offensive football and I was ready for that.

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Martinez was relegated with Wigan, underperformed with Everton and hasn't delivered international silverware with one of the best teams in Europe over the last decade.

 

His teams play some nice looking stuff, but a constant theme is their inability to defend, individually or as unit. 

 

He'd represent a massive risk for a team in 19th that already struggles for clean sheets.

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Fully agreed, I'd rip your hand off for Emery if it was between him, Lampard or Martinez. But I dunno, something I can't really explain, the unknown appeals to me. Fonseca going by what I'm reading and watching now would appeal to me. Conte is my dream although he's not really an 'unknown' so to speak. But, aye. I dunnah.

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Martinez is a weird one for me, yeah he complements Jones well who's already here. But the ideal manager shouldn't be picked because he's worked with a coach before...

 

His Everton in 2013/14 picked up 72 points which is their most in the Premier League era. (65 in 2007/08 was their 2nd most points) 

 

Won the FA Cup with Wigan so he's rightly remembered fondly there. Whoever's manager when we win a trophy (and it is a when!) will be remembered so well because it's been so long.

 

But he has his shortcomings which have already been mentioned

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