Jimwallace197 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Manxst said: You’ve been proved wrong and can’t face facts. He’s been linked with Man Utd and been in media other than red tops which is what you had an issue with and what you wanted me to prove. I’ve provided sources. What would you say are better ones? Given your simple error earlier regarding the Dutch team in Germany, I think I’d take my chances with even the red tops before your opinion. I havent been proved wrong because he still hasnt been considered whatsoever for the job at United if that ever did become vacant. And is highly unlikely to ever be either. You've thrown out a load of clickbait website articles with little to no concrete information to back up your " he was courted by Man United" claims. Truth was, he has never been & is highly unlikely to be. Don't believe whatever garbage you read online. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 United FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimwallace197 said: I havent been proved wrong because he still hasnt been considered whatsoever for the job at United if that ever did become vacant. And is highly unlikely to ever be either. You've thrown out a load of clickbait website articles with little to no concrete information to back up your " he was courted by Man United" claims. Truth was, he has never been & is highly unlikely to be. Don't believe whatever garbage you read online. Sound advice, ta… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimwallace197 said: I havent been proved wrong because he still hasnt been considered whatsoever for the job at United if that ever did become vacant. And is highly unlikely to ever be either. You've thrown out a load of clickbait website articles with little to no concrete information to back up your " he was courted by Man United" claims. Truth was, he has never been & is highly unlikely to be. Don't believe whatever garbage you read online. Highly unlikely to ever be? Righto. The man is at a top CL club, has developed and nurtured over £700m worth of talent which has been sold from his team. He’s been talked about Europe wide for too clubs (including Manchester UNITED, and Barcelona), he’s developed a good attacking team philosophy. But because you can’t name a source you’d actually consider, you think he’ll literally NEVER be considered for a top job. Geez…I give up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jimwallace197 said: The way it should be. Just because some low level media sources have linked him with United, does it mean he will have a chance in hell of getting that job? no. Their jobs are to attract clicks or subscriptions not to deal with the cold reality that he has never been courted by United & would never be seriously be considered by them. Mackem regen alert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimwallace197 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Why wouldn’t he be ? Because they could likely have Conte, Zidane if they wanted to. Serial winners not just as players but as managers too. Not some manager who looks the business but still has only done it in the Eredivise. United whether we like it or not is still one of the richest/most attractive clubs in the world, a bad decision in their appointment as a manager will have a knock on effect in the stock market even. They're going to take a punt on Ten Hag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jimwallace197 said: Because they could likely have Conte, Zidane if they wanted to. Serial winners not just as players but as managers too. Not some manager who looks the business but still has only done it in the Eredivise. United whether we like it or not is still one of the richest/most attractive clubs in the world, a bad decision in their appointment as a manager will have a knock on effect in the stock market even. They're going to take a punt on Ten Hag I agree, no way will Sheffield United be looking at this joker! Newcastle on the other hand… Edited October 26, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 btw for those wanting Emery - i personally think he'd be on a hiding to nothing with our arsehole fans, they'll only see his arsenal failure and unless it was instant success and nice football they'll be all over him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dokko said: Mackem regen alert Edited October 26, 2021 by thomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just now, mrmojorisin75 said: btw for those wanting Emery - i personally think he'd be on a hiding to nothing with our arsehole fans, they'll only see his arsenal failure and unless it was instant success and nice football they'll be all over him I’m not so sure, I think right now, anyone who comes in and keeps us up first will be well received and short-to-long-term, his pedigree suggests he will be more than capable of doing a good job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimwallace197 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Manxst said: Highly unlikely to ever be? Righto. The man is at a top CL club, has developed and nurtured over £700m worth of talent which has been sold from his team. He’s been talked about Europe wide for too clubs (including Manchester UNITED, and Barcelona), he’s developed a good attacking team philosophy. But because you can’t name a source you’d actually consider, you think he’ll literally NEVER be considered for a top job. Geez…I give up. Are you that naive to believe he developed that talent on his own? Seriously, Ajax have had a long history of developing youth players, Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf, RijKaard, Van Baasten. And all of a sudden you think he just came along and developed all of this amazing talent, read up on your footballing history. Ajax have a long history of developing fantastic youth players irrespective of who the manager is. On top of this, Ajax are not a top Cl club anymore, knocked in the group stages the last two years. Before that lucky to get to the semis and then beaten by spurs. I don't know in what way you think that is a top cl club. They qualify year on year for the Cl because the competition is so low in the Eredivise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jimwallace197 said: Because they could likely have Conte, Zidane if they wanted to. Serial winners not just as players but as managers too. Not some manager who looks the business but still has only done it in the Eredivise. United whether we like it or not is still one of the richest/most attractive clubs in the world, a bad decision in their appointment as a manager will have a knock on effect in the stock market even. They're going to take a punt on Ten Hag They could have done that before instead of ole ? You also named Rodgers earlier he isn’t a serial winner ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimwallace197 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just now, SUPERTOON said: They could have done that before instead of ole ? You also named Rodgers earlier he isn’t a serial winner ? The Ole appointment is understandable, he's a former hero and after their previous experience with top managers, maybe they wanted to go down a different route. Not anymore though, ole has proven to be worst then both of them. Won zero. Rodgers won alot at Celtic and has done extremely well with Leicester over the last few seasons, very unlucky to miss out on cl football. Also, he came extremely close to winning Liverpool the league aswell. He knows the league, English is his first language, much safer punt than Ken Tag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimwallace197 said: The Ole appointment is understandable, he's a former hero and after their previous experience with top managers, maybe they wanted to go down a different route. Not anymore though, ole has proven to be worst then both of them. Won zero. Rodgers won alot at Celtic and has done extremely well with Leicester over the last few seasons, very unlucky to miss out on cl football. Also, he came extremely close to winning Liverpool the league aswell. He knows the league, English is his first language, much safer punt than Ken Tag. So you don’t rate Ten Hag dominating a superior Dutch league and having good success in Europe, but you rate Rodgers winning a Mickey Mouse league that didn’t even have a proper strength Rangers team ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I was very impressed with how well drilled Ajax were against Dortmund last week like, they're extremely fluid and every player knows their role, which is usually indicative of a manager who has a plan and knows what he's doing; we've seen plenty at NUFC on the opposite end of the spectrum to be able to compare. Any manager we employ will have an element of risk associated given the position we're in, we aren't going to get the best of the best, but I'd prefer an exciting up and coming coach to one whose limitations we're already familiar with, ie Howe, Lampard etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: So you don’t rate Ten Hag dominating a superior Dutch league and having good success in Europe, but you rate Rodgers winning a Mickey Mouse league that didn’t even have a proper strength Rangers team ? Aye, but he can speak English as his first language, where as Ten Hag only speaks it as his second language. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jimwallace197 said: Are you that naive to believe he developed that talent on his own? Seriously, Ajax have had a long history of developing youth players, Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf, RijKaard, Van Baasten. And all of a sudden you think he just came along and developed all of this amazing talent, read up on your footballing history. Ajax have a long history of developing fantastic youth players irrespective of who the manager is. On top of this, Ajax are not a top Cl club anymore, knocked in the group stages the last two years. Before that lucky to get to the semis and then beaten by spurs. I don't know in what way you think that is a top cl club. They qualify year on year for the Cl because the competition is so low in the Eredivise. Everyone knows of the Ajax academy and it’s production line, but you have to be a good manager to be able to contribute to that history. Ajax have scored more goals and conceded the fewest in the whole of Europe this year. As with any top team, the success is down to the sum of its parts. Ten Hag is a major part, being the manager. But has assistance in the success of the club via the sporting director, youth director, coaches etc. Which is why top clubs (including my own) wanting to take both Ten Hag as well as Overmars. I don’t want to be abusive and like to see others opinions as much as anyone, but simply cannot see where you’re coming from with your view and attitude, and find it frankly idiotic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just give Rafa the keys to the whole club and let him do his stuff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimwallace197 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: So you don’t rate Ten Hag dominating a superior Dutch league and having good success in Europe, but you rate Rodgers winning a Mickey Mouse league that didn’t even have a proper strength Rangers team ? Rodgers did & has done exceptionally well with both Liverpool & Leicester. He's British, he knows the league inside out. Also, where did I say I didnt rate Ten Hag, I said he's not as good as some posters are making out. Good success in europe & a superior Dutch league, wtf are ya on about? He's limited success in europe, never actually won anything & the Dutch league is not so superior. One of those snarky posters picking out one aspect of my post ya little rat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jimwallace197 said: Rodgers did & has done exceptionally well with both Liverpool & Leicester. He's British, he knows the league inside out. Also, where did I say I didnt rate Ten Hag, I said he's not as good as some posters are making out. Good success in europe & a superior Dutch league, wtf are ya on about? He's limited success in europe, never actually won anything & the Dutch league is not so superior. One of those snarky posters picking out one aspect of my post ya little rat No need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jimwallace197 said: Rodgers did & has done exceptionally well with both Liverpool & Leicester. He's British, he knows the league inside out. Also, where did I say I didnt rate Ten Hag, I said he's not as good as some posters are making out. Good success in europe & a superior Dutch league, wtf are ya on about? He's limited success in europe, never actually won anything & the Dutch league is not so superior. One of those snarky posters picking out one aspect of my post ya little rat The Dutch league is superior to the Scottish league if you don’t think it is your opinion is completely irrelevant and getting Ajax to a champions league semi final is an achievement. Your insult is also about as good as your posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 So Jim's a hoot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimwallace197 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Manxst said: Everyone knows of the Ajax academy and it’s production line, but you have to be a good manager to be able to contribute to that history. Ajax have scored more goals and conceded the fewest in the whole of Europe this year. As with any top team, the success is down to the sum of its parts. Ten Hag is a major part, being the manager. But has assistance in the success of the club via the sporting director, youth director, coaches etc. Which is why top clubs (including my own) wanting to take both Ten Hag as well as Overmars. I don’t want to be abusive and like to see others opinions as much as anyone, but simply cannot see where you’re coming from with your view and attitude, and find it frankly idiotic. So what he has he won in Europe for Ajax? Also, are you trying to claim you know what goes on behind the scenes at Ajax now? Newcastle is my club too, probably before you were even in nappies. Stop living in dreamworld in relation to Ken Tag, first of all, he's not that good and secondly, he's not the manager we need at this moment in time. If he actually win's something of note outside of Dutch football, come back to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimwallace197 said: So what he has he won in Europe for Ajax? Also, are you trying to claim you know what goes on behind the scenes at Ajax now? Newcastle is my club too, probably before you were even in nappies. Stop living in dreamworld in relation to Ken Tag, first of all, he's not that good and secondly, he's not the manager we need at this moment in time. If he actually win's something of note outside of Dutch football, come back to me Righto Ken. ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I miss the excited, feel good vibe in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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