Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I've actually been way more impressed by the lack of overreaction by most on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Scoot said: We're seeing tonight why Newcastle fans have a reputation for being self-entitled arseholes. After last season and how well we did, 3 bad results and someone here and on twitter are saying he's took us as far as he can. Honestly, what a set of utter cretins. Said it before and I'll say it again, the reputation we have is thoroughly justified sometimes. We have more than our fair share of complete whoppers! You're taking it a bit too personal. It's football fans in general sadly. Wouldn't turn to twitter after such a result for a sane, educated opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Abacus said: I also think you can't take what he said there at 100% face value. To me, he implied we were a bit unlucky with the scoreline, but I don't think that at all. I think we were taken apart. Very soon after, though, as you say he also said it was a time for him to support his players. In other words, he wasn't going to come out and say it was a poor performance in front of the press. He has a history of being economical in interviews with what he really thinks. I suspect behind the scenes he's thinking/saying something a bit different. Absolutely, but that's all part of good man management. He wasn't going to come out and say we were shite with the exclusion of maybe two or three players. I mean, we'd have admired his honesty as fans bur it would suggest gaps in the armour and would potentially upset individuals in the team, or the whole team. Luck doesn't really exist. We all use the term but it's bollocks really. We use luck to explain what we cannot be bothered to explain, cannot explain or simply don't want to explain, really. All opinion this of course... Howe answered questions designed to open cracks and make them holes and instead papered over them whilst he establishes the more long term solution, which he absolutely will find, for me. (Not meaning to be defensive with you by the way ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, nemtizz said: You're taking it a bit too personal. It's football fans in general sadly. Wouldn't turn to twitter after such a result for a sane, educated opinions. This is why I stick to just this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Too early to say definitively he’s tactically one dimensional. But I agree with the sentiment. We’ve gone all in on Howe ball in the transfer market. No 10s, hard runners everywhere. We need to give him the full season and must not knee jerk at any point. I didn’t say he was tactically one dimensional as such, but as a team we are. We can’t counter attack for one. It’s genuinely embarrassing watching us try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Scoot said: We're seeing tonight why Newcastle fans have a reputation for being self-entitled arseholes. After last season and how well we did, 3 bad results and some on here and on twitter are saying he's took us as far as he can. Honestly, what a set of utter cretins. Said it before and I'll say it again, the reputation we have is thoroughly justified sometimes. We have more than our fair share of complete whoppers! What a ridiculous post , like you can' t criticise the most abject performance since Bacon Butty days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Scoot said: We're seeing tonight why Newcastle fans have a reputation for being self-entitled arseholes. After last season and how well we did, 3 bad results and some on here and on twitter are saying he's took us as far as he can. Honestly, what a set of utter cretins. Said it before and I'll say it again, the reputation we have is thoroughly justified sometimes. We have more than our fair share of complete whoppers! No one is actually implying they want him gone are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Holloway said: What a ridiculous post , like you can' t criticise the most abject performance since Bacon Butty days All depends on the context of what's been said and seen though doesn't it. Criticising a performance is one thing. Suggesting whole scale changes is another and as we all know the Internet rarely has grey areas... Edited September 2, 2023 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Holloway said: What a ridiculous post , like you can' t criticise the most abject performance since Bacon Butty days After that performance I’ve never craved a donner kebab as much in my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronaldo said: No one is actually implying they want him gone are they? One or two, but they may not even be newcastle fans for all we know. They dont mean anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Holloway said: What a ridiculous post , like you can' t criticise the most abject performance since Bacon Butty days TBF Brighton are total class. West Ham beat them last week through shear luck, the stats were mad in Brightons flavour, this team could really finish second this season. Give Howe at least till Christmas, at the very least he deserves that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Holloway said: What a ridiculous post , like you can' t criticise the most abject performance since Bacon Butty days What is with this obsession with a few people about others not letting them criticize something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Do people who say 'you can't criticise anything' really think people can't see through what you're doing? Like, do you think people are that thick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Heron said: All depends on the context of what's been said and seen though doesn't it. Criticising a performance is oen thing. Suggesting whole scale changes is another and as we all know the Internet rarely has grey areas... Of course. I have every faith in manager and team to overcome this shitshow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 What a shit start, but kinda expected. Haven’t been able to replicate last season, unfortunately. Can’t see how we will be able to compete in four tournaments tbf. So I really hope we concentrate on EPL and CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Ben said: TBF Brighton are total class. West Ham beat them last week through shear luck, the stats were mad in Brightons flavour, this team could really finish second this season. Give Howe at least till Christmas, at the very least he deserves that. West Ham entirely deserved their win through both tactically and physically outperforming Brighton. Stats don't always tell the full picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, Displayname said: One or two, but they may not even be newcastle fans for all we know. They dont mean anything. Fans come in all shapes and sizes. I wouldn't speak for them whether they are fans just because they are bordering on insufferable. Ronaldo really is a WWE referee when it comes those few though. This is like the fifth time he has said that in the last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Heron said: Absolutely, but that's all part of good man management. He wasn't going to come out and say we were shite with the exclusion of maybe two or three players. I mean, we'd have admired his honesty as fans bur it would suggest gaps in the armour and would potentially upset individuals in the team, or the whole team. Luck doesn't really exist. We all use the term but it's bollocks really. We use luck to explain what we cannot be bothered to explain, cannot explain or simply don't want to explain, really. All opinion this of course... Howe answered questions designed to open cracks and make them holes and instead papered over them whilst he establishes the more long term solution, which he absolutely will find, for me. (Not meaning to be defensive with you by the way ) There's nothing defensive in your post there, mate, nor any need to be. Because I completely agree - suspect it was just him straight-batting questions because he doesn't feel any value in a public inquisition, when he's got a group of players that will probably be feeling a bit bruised. He probably will be himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Anyone know what a ' coshhh ' is ? An english translation would be nice "Under the cosh" basically means under constant pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Heron said: West Ham entirely deserved their win through both tactically and physically outperforming Brighton. Stats don't always tell the full picture. I don't agree, if you have 17% possession in a game of football you do deserve to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 As disappointing as this evening was, some of the disrespect I've seen towards Howe tonight has sickened me. Going to stay off social media for a while I think. Fickle cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, LiquidAK said: "Under the cosh" basically means under constant pressure. Nah its when he refers to people taking coshhhes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Sorry lads, a few Stella"s deep and talking shite tbf. But Brighton aren"t total class, they are doing brilliantly for there status,that's it. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 *their Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ben said: I don't agree, if you have 17% possession in a game of football you do deserve to win. Football is about getting chances to score goals, not maintaining possesion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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