MrRaspberryJam Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, Myleftboot said: They are payed athletes man howay,fitness shouldn’t come into it. Why shouldn’t it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 minute ago, thomas said: A lot of people throughout the season have been perplexed at his relative lack of rotation. Obviously no way of knowing what kind of injury list we'd be looking at if more had been given time, etc .. but I think we're reaping some small bit of what he sowed now. I know what you mean. Obviously you can't predict injuries or gambling addictions but the summer was not good at all. We seriously lack depth at CB and across the front and we're having a 33 year old Trippier play 3 games a week whilst we have a more than competent deputy for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Aye don’t know what’s worse the defeat or the absolute shite that will be spouted. Actually I do know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: Why shouldn’t it? That’s their job mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Nothing worse than managers and fans hiding behind injuries as an excuse to explain and excuse bad performances and results. Yes, they're part of the context and reason but they're not the be all and end all. We played poorly tonight and Bournemouth were better, took their chances and deservedly won and I hope and expect to hear Howe come out and say so. We're a PL team with a PL squad and the team he picked tonight didn't do enough and it happens. We rarely lose to bottom half teams but we did tonight - Howe and all of us need to take it on the chin and own it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, Myleftboot said: That’s their job mate. What is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: What is? Fitness for one. I don’t get this ‘they are tired’ shite. Thats what they get paid to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, midds said: Nothing worse than managers and fans hiding behind injuries as an excuse to explain and excuse bad performances and results. Yes, they're part of the context and reason but they're not the be all and end all. We played poorly tonight and Bournemouth were better, took their chances and deservedly won and I hope and expect to hear Howe come out and say so. We're a PL team with a PL squad and the team he picked tonight didn't do enough and it happens. We rarely lose to bottom half teams but we did tonight - Howe and all of us need to take it on the chin and own it. Tactically we were really poor, we set up like we were playing Man City away not Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossman Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Fitness for one. I don’t get this ‘they are tired’ shite. Thats what they get paid to do. Clearly thick or a WUM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Myleftboot said: Fitness for one. I don’t get this ‘they are tired’ shite. Thats what they get paid to do. They’re not robots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Fitness for one. I don’t get this ‘they are tired’ shite. Thats what they get paid to do. So you don’t believe athletes should get tired? We’ve played 9 times since start of October in comparison to Bournemouths six. We’ve had to play Paris and Dortmund twice. How do you ensure our players are kept as fresh as Bournemouths despite playing those extra games? Edited November 11, 2023 by MrRaspberryJam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 We haven't looked close to winning a game without Bruno, this season or last. Against some dross sides as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Livramento played the whole 90 mid week I believe. He has had a big injurynin his young career and is still working his way back to regular football. Don't fault the manager for being careful with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShearer Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 rotation is something he didnt need to do too much previously. never managed in Europe before did he, on top of domestic league? expect same at Brighton, they jumped into European football from not being there ever probably, and even tho they have lot easier EL games than us in CL, they will feel it badly come Dec and January. Howe needs to learn rottion is crucial in a schedule like this, was very surprised 1-1.5 month ago when the starter was almost the same every game in PL, in CL. he would probably start Burn, Botman, Schar, Tripper backline in every single game if he could. will not work long term if we are in Europe too. its not just the extra 6 group games its lack of time to work on next game, lack of time for relax, more injuries with more games etc. it all adds up. our CL games are brutal, all high tempo top teams with vast experience in CL all can easily reach QF's. not most of the opponents of our PL rivals like Red Star, Young Boys, Copenhagen, Lens, PSV etc. these would be ripped apart by our CL opponents. on top of that brutal unlucky Carabao draw. with his playing style we need a much bigger squad, obviously FFP restricted us while our two main transfers ended up being out quite early. dont underestimate a new signing coming and hitting it straightaway look at Doku, Maddison, Rice all adding lot of value. For us it was Tonali what a crash it became with his ban, and Barnes got a longer injury before he even could have started to perform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Think next season we will definitely be in better shape - can see us signing 3 players and bringing Minteh back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Absolutely nothing to worry about , we have about ten fit players including 17 year old kids , Eddie will sort it and we will be 6/7th at worst . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: Livramento played the whole 90 mid week I believe. He has had a big injurynin his young career and is still working his way back to regular football. Don't fault the manager for being careful with him. Exactly..it's also why willock looked off tonight too. He's been out for 5/6 months, it's a lot to just expect the injured players to play 70 mins of intense running if you've done it midweek.. Eddie is doing his best, I'm not too fussed just enjoying the ride. We will be up there one day, give us a few years and we will be smashing it. This is all amazing experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, gbandit said: Howay man, that’s just nonsense. Joelinton and Willock have had injuries and probably aren’t absolutely match fit, certainly not for multiple games a week at highest intensity. Almiron runs himself into the ground every game and we saw that he can’t sustain that today without an injury. Trippier is clearly absolutely shattered, both physically and mentally. He has played the most minutes while also going away on international duty. Gordon has done the most sprints out of anyone in the league I’m sure. This idea that athletes can be robots is utter shite Some of those big names also had their worst performances in a while. They might be ’fit’ but they are clearly exhausted right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: We haven't looked close to winning a game without Bruno, this season or last. Against some dross sides as well. Yeah, he's our one CM who's actually really technically proficient, consistent and can play under pressure. If you can't control the centre you struggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Gordon Wilson Miggy Barnes Isak Murphy I mean we've got 5 out of our 6 attacking options all injured. I don't think that's an excuse to hide behind. Bournemouth played like they had nothing to fear from us. Even the Joe's have played more football than we'd have liked I think after their injuries. Everyone is absolutely gagging for a rest, it's amazing we've done well so well so far given what we've had available recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jaqen said: Gordon Wilson Miggy Barnes Isak Murphy I mean we've got 5 out of our 6 attacking options all injured. I don't think that's an excuse to hide behind. Bournemouth played like they had nothing to fear from us. Even the Joe's have played more football than we'd have liked I think after their injuries. Everyone is absolutely gagging for a rest, it's amazing we've done well so well so far given what we've had available recently. I'm pretty certain that privately there was a feeling of "FFS" when we won those two League Cup ties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, Wullie said: I'm pretty certain that privately there was a feeling of "FFS" when we won those two League Cup ties. Yep, even if it wasn't said, I bet it was thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 hour ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Time for a change ? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, Mountain said: No No need for the passive aggressiveness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 52 minutes ago, gbandit said: He looked pretty livid at the end there, not I think at the players but maybe more so at the situation we’ve ended up in Never seen him as emotional as when it looked like Longstaff was coming off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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