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35 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

He says Newcastle have way more resources, but this point is irrelevant anyway given FFP. You can't spend the way you want to yet.

 

 

Speaking to fans I know, no this isn't the case at all. Things need to improve, but most still back Ten Hag. There's a plethora of reasons why things have gone wrong this season. Despite all this, we are still in touch or ahead of teams considered to be our rivals this season.

 

Things aren't going to get any better soon, given the injuries. We're heading to Anfield on Sunday without Fernandes, Casemiro, Eriksen, Maguire, Shaw, Martinez, Lindelof, Mount, Malacia, Martial and Rashford. I'm not the biggest fan of some of these players, but we've literally zero options off the bench now.

 

Er, aye that's what I meant. Lovely typo from me there. [emoji38]

 

He might do a good job in the long run but you can't deny that his signings have been crap for the money spent.

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2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

You don’t even support our club. Your input about our club or me as a poster means absolutely nothing to me. 
 

This is a NUFC forum. Bad faith Man U fan opinions should be ignored. Especially in the Eddie Howe thread. 

 

 

 

 

It's a football forum on the internet, not some fucking MI6 nuclear level shit we're discussing.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

This is what a lot of our fans, and clearly opposition fans need to understand though. We're not Man United in the 90's and 00's. It's not the same club and it's not the same team.

 

Expectations need to be tempered.

It’s still Man Utd though.  Ron Atkinson was sacked when I was a kid after five successive top four finishes and two FA Cup wins because of a shaky start to a season.

 

And this was before Man Utd were the financial juggernaut they are today.  They still had the fourth highest turnover in world football last season (second highest in England) - 200m more than Arsenal.  He’s not battling against the odds. 

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2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

This is a NUFC forum. Bad faith Man U fan opinions should be ignored. Especially in the Eddie Howe thread. 

 

I think most of the posters on here would probably prefer me to talk about Man United rather than the absolute tripe you posted on Wednesday night about your own club in the Champions League after they didn't make it through a group with PSG, Dortmund and Milan.

 

However, fair enough point about it being the Howe thread. I'm out. 

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Ten Hag gets so much stick because he has spent a load of money on complete rubbish . Man United literally have the most expensive squad in the entire league and are nowhere near challenging the best teams , they have no game plan , way of playing or tactics at all. He also comes across as a complete knob the way he goes on, which dosnt help him either .

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Geogaddi said:

Ten Hag gets so much stick because he has spent a load of money on complete rubbish . Man United literally have the most expensive squad in the entire league and are nowhere near challenging the best teams , they have no game plan , way of playing or tactics at all. He also comes across as a complete knob the way he goes on, which dosnt help him either .

 

 

 

 

Nutshell.

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Also Rashford being in the form of his life for a large chunk of last season played a huge part in Man United winning that cup and finishing 3rd. Now he's back to his usual lazy self and not carrying them anymore they have regressed. 

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6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I had no issue with the sale of Ginola.  We looked miles better playing a 4-3-3 that season.  The issue was what Dalglish did that summer.

 

Getting ‘dicked’ by Monaco - a Monaco side which contained Barthez, Henry, Petit, Scifo, Ikpeba, Sonny Anderson, et al - wasn’t shameful at all, and wasn’t surprising given that we had an injury crisis (yep, plenty previous there) so bad that at various points in the first leg we had Warren Barton playing centre forward.  This was the last season of the real European Cup, so the UEFA Cup was by far the strongest competition (and hardest to win).  

 

96/97 remains my favourite NUFC season for a number of reasons.  The football Dalglish’s side played (when we had a full roster) was some of the most exciting I’d seen.  We had two 4-3 games in a month - the same number as KK had in the previous three and a half years (yet somehow 4-3 is a KK style match).  We were 6th when Dalglish came in.  He lost his mind that summer.  

 

The Monaco results was inevitable - they were a very, very good side - in addition to those you mention they had Grimandi, Legwinski, Benarbia, Djetou - nearly every player was a full French International supported by a couple of Brazilians - and John Collins who to be fair was a fine and underrated midfielder - the only Jock who'd have got in England's squad at that time.

 

Given our lack of success and pretty turgid football bar a few years under Keegan (round 1) and Robson (2nd year) we've stuck by those Manager's we have respected and looked like they were trying to move the club forward. We've been quicker in recent years to turn on players who appear to be swinging the lead.

 

As has been pointed out the internet is not representative (imho) of the engaged fanbase.

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2 hours ago, 54 said:

In today's absolutely wild tweet:

 

 

How can you talk so much football, and not see the bigger picture at all?

 

How many years have they raked in money from the Adidas deal? We get 5-6m from Castore. We are only talking about the club who has spent the most money the last decade. But resources aye.. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

No, it’s a naive at best and idiotic at worst strategy to have your centre half get delusions of grandeur and think they’re Lothar Mattaus.

 

The ‘winner’ mentality is a complete misnomer - winning teams aren’t naive nor stupid; there is zero chance that Milan do that if the positions are reversed.  And Milan could hardly be accused of being a ‘loser’ club.  That shite needs knocking out of the team if we’re going to win anything - and that goes for Howe, too.  It was poor game management.  

I think with the latest injury news Thursday, Sunday football is the last thing we needed this season. I’ve got no qualms about going for it and risking it all on last 16, the prize was sufficient to warrant going for broke.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm glad we went for it and always want us to play that way but do feel there may have been a bit of an oversight in not considering the opposition's motivations enough.  Milan had to win, they had to open up themselves sometime so perhaps we shouldn't have blinked first in that sense. 

 

Whether that was possible with the personnel and the fitness levels, no idea.  I'm sure we'll learn from it, this was new to almost everyone.

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What actually is this Goldbridge guy? I've had the misfortune of passing a few clips recently and he seems to admit he's a character, not even his real name is it? 

 

I find it so strange that people want to watch the reactions and hear the opinions of a fake social media personality reacting to real football matches. The moments I've seen that people seem to find hilarious feel forced as fuck too.

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8 minutes ago, wormy said:

What actually is this Goldbridge guy? I've had the misfortune of passing a few clips recently and he seems to admit he's a character, not even his real name is it? 

 

I find it so strange that people want to watch the reactions and hear the opinions of a fake social media personality reacting to real football matches. The moments I've seen that people seem to find hilarious feel forced as fuck too.

Former copper who cottoned out really fast there’s a lot of money to be made out of the tears of man united fans. 

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3 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

What has he said that's wrong though? :lol: He's not in any way saying Howe should be subject to a media pile on and neither am I as he's done an incredible job, but the abuse Ten Hag gets is mental given what he's achieved at Man United so far.

 

The guy literally has the best win ratio in our history and won us our first trophy in 6 years while finishing third in his first season and is being treated by opposition fans like he's some sort of clueless idiot. :lol: It's all a bit mental.


It’s okay to defend Ten Haag - Man U is not an easy job - but the comparison with Eddie Howe is plain daft. Eddie inherited a far worse squad of players and Ten Haag has had much more financial backing.

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3 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

What has he said that's wrong though? :lol: He's not in any way saying Howe should be subject to a media pile on and neither am I as he's done an incredible job, but the abuse Ten Hag gets is mental given what he's achieved at Man United so far.

 

The guy literally has the best win ratio in our history and won us our first trophy in 6 years while finishing third in his first season and is being treated by opposition fans like he's some sort of clueless idiot. :lol: It's all a bit mental.

It's like Robsons last full season and Peter Reids second season of finishing 7th, purely looking at the stats and it's not too bad but those that went could see the change and knew it wasn't going to turn round.

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