Eddie Howe

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, Ikon said:

Still think we would struggle against low blocks. Very good in transitions though.

But everyone struggles against low blocks. 
 

After a couple of seasons of battering teams we could look to introduce more craft. 

[Ikon]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

But everyone struggles against low blocks. 
 

After a couple of seasons of battering teams we could look to introduce more craft. 

That is true. Personally I think we would be better off with one of the wide players being able to offer some creativity don’t you? Especially since Howe doesn’t seem to want a creative attacking midfielder. 

[madras]

1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

I do, yeah. Both Gordon and Barnes have played on the left the majority of the careers at their previous clubs and in the 7 matches Barnes has been available for he has only started with Gordon once and has only shared the pitch with him for 98 minutes out of 630.

 

I thought Tonali was a signing to take pressure off Bruno and rotate with him with the extra games that came with the CL.

 

 

I'll have big qualms about them if they don't tbh.

Really ? The best I saw of Gordon at Everton was on the right. Tonali is far too good to be a rotation ffs and in Eddie saying close season we want to become more possession based.

 

The 433 we are playing, which has served us well, we know its not going to get us where we want and our buying strategy says that

[Away Toon]

17 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

So we spent 80 million on two left wingers to then regularly play one out of position?

It's a good question because Barnes for sure can only play LW and Gordon doesn't look good on the right.  I've said it before but wide left is arguably the best position for Barnes, Gordon, Anderson, Willock and Joe Linton so who knows what the thinking is. Isac also seems to be good wide left as well. It's a conundrum that needs resolving.

[WideopenMag]

Eddie Howes Black and white army 

[HaydnNUFC]

3 minutes ago, madras said:

Really ? The best I saw of Gordon at Everton was on the right. Tonali is far too good to be a rotation ffs and in Eddie saying close season we want to become more possession based.

 

The 433 we are playing, which has served us well, we know its not going to get us where we want and our buying strategy says that

 

31 G+A in 81 games as a LW as opposed to 10 G+A in 44 games as a RW. Also seems that Howe likes inverted wingers regardless.

 

Worded the Tonali point badly, my bad, didn't mean he was meant to be a rotational player but a player of his quality coming in would've taken the pressure off of Bruno a bit given our reliance upon his presence (not won in which he hasn't started since March 2022).

[Novocastrian]

19 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

Maybe he was affected by the off the pitch stuff but there were a lot of questions about Tonali's performances before he was suspended.

 

There were also signs of similar issues with teams waltzing through our midfield with ease before we were beset with injuries and fatigue.

Yeah the jury is still

 massively out on Tonali, I’m not sure he really improved us before his ban.

[Dr.Spaceman]

26 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Hmm

 

I'll believe it when I see it

[Dokko]

13 minutes ago, dcmk said:

You might as well just admit you want him out at this point.  Same yourself some time and trouble.

 

It's not me doing this, its him. He's cracking under the pressure. I fucking told you all a few weeks ago this was a test for him. I was laughed at. He's failing this test. I hate to see it. I'd rather be wrong and have my posts dragged up and called whatever. It's really sad to see, but worse is, people who can't handle calling out the obvious, and must deflect at any cost. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Dokko said:

 

It's not me doing this, its him. He's cracking under the pressure. I fucking told you all a few weeks ago this was a test for him. I was laughed at. He's failing this test. I hate to see it. I'd rather be wrong and have my posts dragged up and called whatever. It's really sad to see, but worse is, people who can't handle calling out the obvious, and must deflect at any cost. 

Definitely too early to be saying that tbh.

[Yorkie]

Curious to know what the question was before I judge the answer.

[joeyt]

Certainly be intereted to know much say he's going to have on transfers going forward

 

The board can continue to back him with Howe type players or maybe they'll be looking in a different direction to him as we can't keep on just playing athletes with little creativity

[toon25]

30 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Hmm

 

Trips and Burn will start Vs. Liverpool.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Just now, joeyt said:

Certainly be intereted to know much say he's going to have on transfers going forward

 

The board can continue to back him with Howe type players or maybe they'll be looking in a different direction to him as we can't keep on just playing athletes with little creativity

He has no individual say, there has to be unanimous agreement across the team to get the transfer in.

[Kid Icarus]

Missing out on Maddison and Szobszlai, who have nigh on identical fbref player profiles suggests to me that Howe knows what's needed and they're looking for an alternative that we haven't heard about yet.

[joeyt]

Okay maybe I'll wordit slightly differently, I wonder if the team will move away from buying Howe-type players and insist on more creativity/flair

[madras]

2 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

31 G+A in 81 games as a LW as opposed to 10 G+A in 44 games as a RW. Also seems that Howe likes inverted wingers regardless.

 

Worded the Tonali point badly, my bad, didn't mean he was meant to be a rotational player but a player of his quality coming in would've taken the pressure off of Bruno a bit given our reliance upon his presence (not won in which he hasn't started since March 2022).

Does that mean Gordon didn't look better on the right or being mobile? In the 3-1 game up here I've no idea what his nominal position was but he was their only threat.

 

Tonali would have take the pressure off by playing alongside. I swear they were meant to be a pair, not a two of a three.

 

 

[gbandit]

One thing I’d like to see more of is us breaking at pace. Too often we get stuck in moving the ball back across our midfield from side to side. That would be fine if we were a passing side that kills the opposition that way but that’s not us with this squad of players

[joeyt]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

Missing out on Maddison and Szobszlai, who have nigh on identical fbref player profiles suggests to me that Howe knows what's needed and they're looking for an alternative that we haven't heard about yet.

 

Did we miss out on Maddison? I think we prioritised Barnes instead which always looked an odd decision if true

[UncleBingo]

3 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

It's not me doing this, its him. He's cracking under the pressure. I fucking told you all a few weeks ago this was a test for him. I was laughed at. He's failing this test. I hate to see it. I'd rather be wrong and have my posts dragged up and called whatever. It's really sad to see, but worse is, people who can't handle calling out the obvious, and must deflect at any cost. 

You're the boy who cried wolf son, as you've been saying the same thing for a long as I remember, as soon as things aren't going our way. You now seem genuinely pleased that you can say 'I told you so' .....give yourself a pat on the back.

[catlover24]

1 minute ago, joeyt said:

 

Did we miss out on Maddison? I think we prioritised Barnes instead which always looked an odd decision if true

Maddison preferred spurs to us

[HaydnNUFC]

Just now, joeyt said:

 

Did we miss out on Maddison? I think we prioritised Barnes instead which always looked an odd decision if true

 

Athletic said we opted to look elsewhere which I too find mad. Think he'd have come here had we gone in for him in the summer.

[Jagten]

4 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

He has no individual say, there has to be unanimous agreement across the team to get the transfer in.

His influence has certainly grown. His nephew is "head of first team technical scouting".
 

[Guest reefatoon]

2 hours ago, OverThere said:

Tonali and Barnes: completely disasterous

Due to unforeseen circumstances and bad luck they have been for this season.

 

 

Edited December 26, 2023 by reefatoon

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, joeyt said:

 

Did we miss out on Maddison? I think we prioritised Barnes instead which always looked an odd decision if true

If we didn't last summer we definitely did the previous summer when we were having bids rejected. Obviously you take everything with a pinch of salt but the word summer just gone was that he wanted to be in London, so maybe we just didn't bother.

 

With both players there was too much smoke for there to have been no fire imo.