TheBrownBottle Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Is Howe’s press conference today? Was expecting it to be a couple of days before. Itching to listen to the man speak - he normally instills some confidence (and I’m not the one playing) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Is Howe’s press conference today? Was expecting it to be a couple of days before. Itching to listen to the man speak - he normally instills some confidence (and I’m not the one playing) Hasn't been working lately. Though I do feel we just need a win and we'll go on a run when players are returning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Is Howe’s press conference today? Was expecting it to be a couple of days before. Itching to listen to the man speak - he normally instills some confidence (and I’m not the one playing) 9am Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 9 hours ago, Matt1892 said: Fingers crossed we get to see the double pivot on Saturday then. Not until we have the players to do it ie when Tonali is back. We did kind of try it at Leeds last season when Joelinton played a lot more central allowing Bruno to get forward a bit more. Abandoned after about half an hour cos Joe couldn't do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I have an almost irrational hatred of the double pivot, not that it isn't possibly useless but there was a period where every team was playing 4-2-3-1 with 2 players in midfield sat in front of a back 4 and there weren't many goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, Tiresias said: I have an almost irrational hatred of the double pivot, not that it isn't possibly useless but there was a period where every team was playing 4-2-3-1 with 2 players in midfield sat in front of a back 4 and there weren't many goals Agreed. Don't Villa essentially play with a double-pivot? They do it well. It's a lot more fluid than the old 4231 though. Often looks like a back 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Kamara is a DM by trade so I guess his instincts will be to stay back. But I don’t know much about their system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 16 minutes ago, Tiresias said: I have an almost irrational hatred of the double pivot, not that it isn't possibly useless but there was a period where every team was playing 4-2-3-1 with 2 players in midfield sat in front of a back 4 and there weren't many goals Its a system we should adopt away from home tbh - and should work well with Tonali - we’ve been too soft recently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) Edited January 5 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 25 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Agreed. Don't Villa essentially play with a double-pivot? They do it well. It's a lot more fluid than the old 4231 though. Often looks like a back 3. It is and there's a laziness creeping in in football circles where any set up with 2 CM's is labelled a double pivot. Also re Villa's back 4 often looking like a 3 when in possession.......does it sound familiar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 22 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Kamara is a DM by trade so I guess his instincts will be to stay back. But I don’t know much about their system. Douglas Luiz plays alongside him deep. Luiz is more of an all-rounder, the progressive passer. In my mind it often ends up something like: Konsa Torres Digne Luiz Kamara Bailey/Cash McGinn Diaby Watkins Torres & Luiz progressing play from deep. Edited January 5 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Did Howe given any soundbites in his presser to help calm our nerves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Kamara is a DM by trade so I guess his instincts will be to stay back. But I don’t know much about their system. Another successful team with a specialist DM. If only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 18 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Not sure how to take his comments about running on empty. Is he saying the players aren't running on empty, or that he's just not using that as an excuse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 20 minutes ago, Yorkie said: My man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Not sure how to take his comments about running on empty. Is he saying the players aren't running on empty, or that he's just not using that as an excuse? Not using it or allowing it to be an excuse was how I interpreted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Just now, dcmk said: Not using it or allowing it to be an excuse was how I interpreted it. Worrying. Running the players into the ground and then not taking responsibility for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 No warm weather training this month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 11 minutes ago, Yorkie said: No warm weather training this month. Haven’t watched but did he say why? Seems baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 04/01/2024 at 12:16, wormy said: Yeah it's a shame. I always take the 'his younger brother is even better!' stuff with a pinch of salt though tbh. Feels like it gets trotted out for any good young player that breaks through in football. In NUFC's case it's already started with Miley. To be fair it's scientific fact. I think having an older role model, being to learn from their mistakes, getting into the sport sooner all lead to the youngest having the highest chance of success. You also have to fight more. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2021/03/25/revealed-younger-siblings-likely-have-standout-sporting-career/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 If we all chant double pivot twenty times at exactly the same time maybe it will be so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 13 minutes ago, La Parka said: To be fair it's scientific fact. I think having an older role model, being to learn from their mistakes, getting into the sport sooner all lead to the youngest having the highest chance of success. You also have to fight more. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2021/03/25/revealed-younger-siblings-likely-have-standout-sporting-career/ That doesn’t make it scientific fact tbf - don’t ask me. Ask Phil Neville, Anton Ferdinand, Jobe Bellingham … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 19 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: That doesn’t make it scientific fact tbf - don’t ask me. Ask Phil Neville, Anton Ferdinand, Jobe Bellingham … Matty Longstaff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 48 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Haven’t watched but did he say why? Seems baffling. The sun's injured (groin) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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