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32 minutes ago, Toon1892 said:

I’m really not. 
 

There is no guarantee you’ll sign one of those players on high wages and they won’t flop in the premier league.

 

Theres a reason a proven player usually has a higher salary than an unproven player.

 

Yes signing those unproven players regularly over the long term on lower wages would be amazing. But there hasn’t been a team able to do that long term and it can sometimes backfire- see Everton.

 

And there is a reason premier league players are paid on average more than in other European leagues that is not linked to ability.

 

You will get a player of the same ability from the German or French leagues for less wages than the equivalent in the Premier League. We did it with Bruno. 

 

You are right on the will they flop bit, but you can say the same about players moving between clubs - I'd give you Alexis Sanchez or Fernando Torres as 2 high profile 'sure bets' in fairly recent times who moved and flopped

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Asked whether he has been reassured by the owners, including Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, Howe replied: “It’s difficult for me to speak for them, but I have felt a support and an understanding for the season that we have had and things that have been thrown at us and things that have happened. “That’s really important from my side that I do feel that support.”

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2 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

 

Eh? I wasn't even on about you. 

 

I'm referring to posts in recent days saying anything below 7th is a failure because we've the 7th highest wage bill in the league. With no weight given to us having suffered 200 more injury days than the nearest team and 1000 days more than the two teams above us. 

 

It's a ridiculously reductive argument that has been an absolute fucking bore to read all week. 

 

Over time a bigger wage bill suggests a bigger squad who should be able to cope with injuries better. We aren't at that level yet as we have a Europa League position wage bill but an outside expectation of Champions League placement but as a general point wages=expected performance isn't the worst starting point

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Just now, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

Over time a bigger wage bill suggests a bigger squad who should be able to cope with injuries better. We aren't at that level yet as we have a Europa League position wage bill but an outside expectation of Champions League placement but as a general point wages=expected performance isn't the worst starting point

 

Yep I 100% agree - but ignoring all other context and saying we pay £50m more than other sides and all teams have injuries, therefore that's the yardstick and nothing else matters is bollocks. And it's been said this week. A lot. 

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27 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

And there is a reason premier league players are paid on average more than in other European leagues that is not linked to ability.

 

You will get a player of the same ability from the German or French leagues for less wages than the equivalent in the Premier League. We did it with Bruno. 

 

You are right on the will they flop bit, but you can say the same about players moving between clubs - I'd give you Alexis Sanchez or Fernando Torres as 2 high profile 'sure bets' in fairly recent times who moved and flopped

Oh but it is.

 

Particularly once you get below the elite clubs in other nations and European regulars. West Ham aren't anything special in terms of squad, management and leadership. But their finances mean they should be able to give the Europa League a good go.

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8 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Oh but it is.

 

Particularly once you get below the elite clubs in other nations and European regulars. West Ham aren't anything special in terms of squad, management and leadership. But their finances mean they should be able to give the Europa League a good go.

 

I don't quite follow - sorry!

 

I was cryptically saying that on average premier league players get paid more because the money is in the league through TV deals, so a comparable player in Germany or France will be on less wages than in England.

 

Of course the money means that a Europa League club from England will (again on average) be able to spend more on a squad than the competition hence the English clubs always being in and around the favourites for all competitions

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I don’t think anyone wants him sacked but he’s not got the previous experience/achievements to be untouchable for where the club want to be.

 

If any of the current top 7 sacked their manager I don’t think he’d be considered by any of them if he was available. Maybe Tottenham.

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4 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

I don't quite follow - sorry!

 

I was cryptically saying that on average premier league players get paid more because the money is in the league through TV deals, so a comparable player in Germany or France will be on less wages than in England.

 

Of course the money means that a Europa League club from England will (again on average) be able to spend more on a squad than the competition hence the English clubs always being in and around the favourites for all competitions

Yes what you're saying is correct.

 

But that increase in revenue - also increases the quality of the league/team.

 

I agree there is greater value to be found abroad but there's also greater risk in terms of quality (and other social and physical aspects). 

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2 hours ago, The Prophet said:

I can't even remember what is being debated.

 

 

:lol: I just logged in today and that is exactly what went through my mind.

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7 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

:lol: I just logged in today and that is exactly what went through my mind.

I'm not sure either.

 

I think we have finally accepted the most accurate reports that have us with the 7th highest wage bill and 6th highest squad cost in the league.. and that should probably correlate roughly with league position in some way....

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4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I'm not sure either.

 

I think we have finally accepted the most accurate reports that have us with the 7th highest wage bill and 6th highest squad cost in the league.. and that should probably correlate roughly with league position in some way....

 

Thanks. That's saved me reading back a few pages.

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5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I'm not sure either.

 

I think we have finally accepted the most accurate reports that have us with the 7th highest wage bill and 6th highest squad cost in the league.. and that should probably correlate roughly with league position in some way....

 

Where are you getting 6th from?

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We’re Playing away

I don’t know who’s fit to play

We’ll beat them anyway

Today needs a tactical mastermind 

 

Pressing away

We’ll be coming for your goal, okay?

 

Eddie howe (Eddie howe)

Eddie howe (Eddie howe)

We’ll be champs

In a year or two

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A fit squad, with options from the bench, with one of our main runners back in the middle, and we look much more competent and keep a clean sheet.

 

Shock horror.

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