Eddie Howe

[timeEd32]

Since we’re not in Europe playing the likes of Villa and Liverpool while they are preoccupied with the CL would be preferable.

 

But I also kind of want our first game to be Liverpool with a new manager at SJP.

[Ronaldo]

I love Eddie and I’d be gutted if he was sacked, but I’m far less confident in him than I was this time last year, if I’m honest. Elite managers need to make bold decisions and he consistently avoids them. Pope not playing against Man U is a decision / indecision that looks pretty indefensible now. Not bringing in a keeper at almost all costs in January was brainless and almost everyone on here could see it.

 

Hopefully he’s learnt. 

 

 

Edited May 26 by Ronaldo

[Disco]

Well be class next season

 

Vanmos Eddie

Vamos Newcastle  

[PauloGeordio]

3 hours ago, Disco said:

Well be class next season

 

Vanmos Eddie

Vamos Newcastle  

[Conjo]

4 hours ago, Ronaldo said:

I love Eddie and I’d be gutted if he was sacked, but I’m far less confident in him than I was this time last year, if I’m honest. Elite managers need to make bold decisions and he consistently avoids them. Pope not playing against Man U is a decision / indecision that looks pretty indefensible now. Not bringing in a keeper at almost all costs in January was brainless and almost everyone on here could see it.

 

Hopefully he’s learnt. 

 

 

 

 

Pope looked shaky af against Brentford, so don't think throwing him in earlier, in a more important game, really was the right choice after all, and I'm not entirely sure we'd have done better this season if we signed De Gea on massive wages and threw him straight into the team after 7 months without a club like you wanted to

[Ben]

8 hours ago, Jack27 said:

You know that was a mackem taking the piss right?

 

No

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Chris_R said:

 

Does it matter? We've got to play everyone twice anyway, what does the order matter?

 

Because he's going to be under a bit pressure from the start. Last thing he needs is the sort of run where 3/12 points is possible. You just need to go back in this thread to see fans were getting having a nibble at him for it. He could do with a run where we're near the top after a few games, that gets the mood positive and things can roll from there. 

[ExiledGeordie]

6 hours ago, Ronaldo said:

I love Eddie and I’d be gutted if he was sacked, but I’m far less confident in him than I was this time last year, if I’m honest. Elite managers need to make bold decisions and he consistently avoids them. Pope not playing against Man U is a decision / indecision that looks pretty indefensible now. Not bringing in a keeper at almost all costs in January was brainless and almost everyone on here could see it.

 

Hopefully he’s learnt. 

 

 

 

Im pretty sure he’s learnt loads this season and will develop even more as a manager. He was starting to show how he has a plan B tactics wise. I do agree though I think he needs to be braver with somw decisions at times.

 

I think we’ll have a really strong season next year, hopefully we get a bit luckier with injuries, cup draws and league fixtures too.

[PauloGeordio]

Just now, ExiledGeordie said:

Im pretty sure he’s learnt loads this season and will develop even more as a manager. He was starting to show how he has a plan B tactics wise. I do agree though I think he needs to be braver with somw decisions at times.

 

I think we’ll have a really strong season next year, hopefully we get a bit luckier with injuries, cup draws and league fixtures too & the bounce of the ball.

 

[ExiledGeordie]

2 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

 

ha fair ?

 

I am genuinely excited about next season though. I think we’ll be really strong and have a great chance of a cup and top four. Assuming we get top four and there’s talk of PSR rules being relaxed slightly, I think we could really kick on again next summer.

 

I just hope he develops us in the big games, winning those that really count and that away form has got to change.

 

 

Edited May 26 by ExiledGeordie

[Bondedcrown]

9 hours ago, Ben said:

One bloke says he wasted £8k going to the 8 0 so we have lost a fan

If he's representative of some of the so called fans on here, well good riddance

[Chicken Dancer]

Love him, want him here for a long time and think he’s actually done a decent job this season all things considered.

 

That being said, not getting Europe was a bit of a blow and can’t see owners giving him 25/26 if we’re in the same position in 12 months time. 

[Gawalls]

7 hours ago, Ronaldo said:

I love Eddie and I’d be gutted if he was sacked, but I’m far less confident in him than I was this time last year, if I’m honest. Elite managers need to make bold decisions and he consistently avoids them. Pope not playing against Man U is a decision / indecision that looks pretty indefensible now. Not bringing in a keeper at almost all costs in January was brainless and almost everyone on here could see it.

 

Hopefully he’s learnt. 

 

 

 

The only excuse for not bringing in a keeper in January would be we were skint - oh that’s right we were. Sorry but I’ve read too many times in the last two days things like “no excuse”, “under pressure now” just because we didn’t get into Europe when it went down to the last game of the season ffs.

 

You could see he learned a lot more as the season went on with his tactical changes and he very very nearly delivered us into top 6 with what can only be labelled as a crazy lack of player availability throughout the season.

 

I do believe there’s a good chance that Howe will hit a glass ceiling with us and will have achieved everything he can but so soon after what he’s done is crazy talk in my opinion - those people that say they want him gone just be careful what you wish for.

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

He deserves a shot next season of course, fair bit of credit still in the bank, but interested to know how much time people are willing to give him if we are winning nothing? 

[Sibierski]

It’ll be interesting what the club behind closed doors feel about things next season. Not saying I want him here, but someone like Tuchel is quite possibly available early in next season, and if club makes a slow start, do they look at a named manager to get that gap closed?

 

At some point next season, they’ll want to see club take a step forward and I hope it’s with Howe.

 

We took a big step forward last season, then held our ground by remaining in the top group this season, but now, if after we spend say £100m+, we’ve got to take a step forward. 7th won’t be good enough.

[80]

7 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said:

He deserves a shot next season of course, fair bit of credit still in the bank, but interested to know how much time people are willing to give him if we are winning nothing? 

How do you mean? Like winning no games or winning no competitions?

[Gawalls]

3 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said:

He deserves a shot next season of course, fair bit of credit still in the bank, but interested to know how much time people are willing to give him if we are winning nothing? 

Is his contract length 5 year? For me his minimum target is to take us into a regular top 6 club whilst cutting free dead wood and rebuilding - ideally with huge goings on in the academy so we can call on them in the future either for a call up to first team or additional revenue stream. Anything above that fire me is just gravy.

 

i can see why people are adding CL as a target as we got it once but our squad is still so far behind the top teams to expect that season in season out just yet in my opinion.

[Sibierski]

I think id much rather go on a multiple year journey with Howe, even if its a slow progression, to get towards top end, then to change manager every 18 months to get the boost up there.

 

The trophies and high would just feel a lot better, then it would with some guy who’s been there 12 months and likely sacked 6 months later.

[ATB]

Yeah, next season is of massive significance for Howe. He must show that he can become a winner and not just play attractive football. Several times this year, and last year, we have lost and played our worst when it mattered the most. Next season, there will be no excuses, and we must become more clinical and ruthless. I am looking forward to a more cynical and efficient style of play where we have strengthened the squad in the positions we need. Not just going for 'good deals'."

[ATB]

5 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

Is his contract length 5 year? For me his minimum target is to take us into a regular top 6 club whilst cutting free dead wood and rebuilding - ideally with huge goings on in the academy so we can call on them in the future either for a call up to first team or additional revenue stream. Anything above that fire me is just gravy.

 

i can see why people are adding CL as a target as we got it once but our squad is still so far behind the top teams to expect that season in season out just yet in my opinion.

For top 4-5 with no european football and with a good summer I dont really think we are that far behind. I think we will have a eleven that will challange with no excuses.

[80]

3 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

I can see why people are adding CL as a target as we got it once but our squad is still so far behind the top teams to expect that season in season out just yet in my opinion.

I agree with you, but next season is a 'season in', so we ought to have relatively high hopes. We've got no distractions, all our main competitors have extra European commitments. We've got managerial stability, many of our competitors are in flux etc.

 

We aren't guaranteed anything - not least as it's a long summer ahead - but we ought to be rattling cages next season.

[Gawalls]

Just now, ATB said:

For top 4-5 with no european football and with a good summer I dont really think we are that far behind. I think we will have a eleven that will challange with no excuses.

But say we’re finished 6th which is the target that would make me happy but at the same time had a bit of a clear out and brought better in - would you be calling for him to go? 

[ATB]

Just now, Gawalls said:

But say we’re finished 6th which is the target that would make me happy but at the same time had a bit of a clear out and brought better in - would you be calling for him to go? 

It depends I would say. Its tight at the top so if we do a good season and still end up "just" top 6, then I would say its ok. But if we huff and puff again and get top 6, just, with no real chance of a higher position. Then I would not be to sure.

[Gawalls]

10 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

I think id much rather go on a multiple year journey with Howe, even if its a slow progression, to get towards top end, then to change manager every 18 months to get the boost up there.

 

The trophies and high would just feel a lot better, then it would with some guy who’s been there 12 months and likely sacked 6 months later.

Agree completely.

[80]

7 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

I think id much rather go on a multiple year journey with Howe, even if its a slow progression, to get towards top end, then to change manager every 18 months to get the boost up there.

 

The trophies and high would just feel a lot better, then it would with some guy who’s been there 12 months and likely sacked 6 months later.

Yeah I tend to agree with this. The idea of SSN flashing up the headline "Howe sacked at Newcastle" feels very wrong as things stand.

 

My only concern on that side is if we need to progress at a certain speed to actually make the whole thing work e.g. to attract the sponsors to pay for the wages to cover the FFP to keep PIF interested etc etc. But otherwise I'm relatively happy on the organic slowboat as long as it looks like we're going in the right direction.