Eddie Howe

[Dr Jinx]

Well we were shit for very long spells last season. Lots of excuses why which I’ll reluctantly accept.

 

But so far this season we have played extremely poorly in both games, somehow managing to collect 4 points but that luck won’t last forever if we keep playing like that.

 

Are we far enough away from the days of Steve Bruce to just be able to judge a downward slide?

 

Aside from a few at the back, that was mostly a strong side out there today. We look afraid of the ball, unable to play against teams who press, no plan b seemingly. Don’t even know our best 11.

 

Last summer and this summers windows have been poor. I’ll put an asterisk on Tonali because he can be quality but 80m collectively on Tino and Hall doesn’t look like money well spent right now.

 

We’ve also splashed out 15m on someone who’s sat in the bench for 2 games when it’s been screaming out for a bit of pace and hustle.

 

I’m not screaming for his job but for fuck sake Eddie, time to do better.

 

 

Edited August 25, 2024 by Dr Jinx

[dcmk]

We were too direct first half. Looking for killer balls all the time and then having to spend the next 5 minutes in a low block, with no pressure on the ball.

 

Once Joelinton was able to turn and run through their midfield with the ball, we created decent chances.

 

They dropped off massively, maybe their fitness wasn't as good as ours, but felt we dominated second half barring one or two spells from them.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 25, 2024 by dcmk

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said:

Any manager would still have to play the players Howe has to play. That's our biggest problem by far. 

Don't think anybody can move us forward until we see the back of regularly using some of the names we all know

Not sure that he has to play Murphy tbh. Good preseason but really poor in both games that mattered.

[Upthemags]

1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said:

Any manager would still have to play the players Howe has to play. That's our biggest problem by far. 

Don't think anybody can move us forward until we see the back of regularly using some of the names we all know

The personnel Howe subbed on with 30 minutes to go instantly changed the momentum of the game. Those personnel were available to start. That's on Howe, and no one else.

[buzza]

2 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

I think our style of play is predictable and only really works when we’re 100%. We need to work towards a more possession based game and this should really have been addressed in the transfer market over the last 3 months. It feels like we just try to force things every time we have ball and we just end up losing it quickly.

If we want to play more possession based we need tripps and hall as our backs and somehow get shot of dan as centre back. I get palpitations every time he has the ball at his feet...

P.S. still love the bloke tho'

[dcmk]

1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said:

Well we were shit for very long spells last season. Lots of excuses why which I’ll reluctantly accept.

 

But so far this season we have played extremely poorly in both games, somehow managing to collect 4 points but that luck won’t last forever if we keep playing like that.

 

Are we far enough away from the days of Steve Bruce to just be able to judge a downward slide?

 

Aside from a few at the back, that was mostly a strong side out there today. We look afraid of the ball, unable to play against teams who press, no plan b seemingly. Don’t even know out best 11.

 

Last summer and this summers windows have been poor. I’ll put an asterisk on Tonali because he can be quality but 80m collectively on Tino and Hall doesn’t look like money well spent right now.

 

We’ve also splashed out 15m on someone who’s sat in the bench for 2 games when it’s been screaming out for a bit of pace and hustle.

 

I’m not screaming for his job but for fuck sake Eddie, time to do better.

We picked up barely any points October though to end of January.

 

Yet somehow 8 points away from champions league football.

 

The league is very, very competitive.  It's not a cake walk.

Especially away games.  

[80]

There really are no excuses for us to look badly prepared this season.

[Skeletor]

Just now, 80 said:

There really are no excuses for us to look badly prepared this season.

 

He hasn't made any to be fair.

[80]

7 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

 

He hasn't made any to be fair.

Never thought he would.

[OpenC]

42 minutes ago, dcmk said:

 

The league is very, very competitive.  It's not a cake walk.

Especially away games.  

 

I suppose it comes down to aspirations and expectation. To a degree I can understand it; whenever I heard Klopp or Pep trotting out the No Easy Games line I always felt like they were really just saying it out of a sense of humility more than anything else, because it was the right thing to say.  They would never go to Bournemouth, however tough a game, and be truly satisfied with a battling point on the road. When I hear anybody from Newcastle say it, it still feels like a way to excuse a crappy performance  

 

We're a long way from city and libpewl and I've never felt so distant from this club as I do now, so I agree that it's a tough league with few obvious weak links - I see 'no easy games' as a realistic appraisal, but I suppose for a fair few expectations have been raised these last two sessions.

 

 

Edited August 25, 2024 by OpenC

[Pata]

4 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

We’ve also splashed out 15m on someone who’s sat in the bench for 2 games when it’s been screaming out for a bit of pace and hustle.

 

[Dr Jinx]

43 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

🤷‍♂️

[Jonas]

4 hours ago, Upthemags said:

The personnel Howe subbed on with 30 minutes to go instantly changed the momentum of the game. Those personnel were available to start. That's on Howe, and no one else.

Thats part of the reason for having them on the bench. To instantly come on and change the game. If we'd needed Murphy and Longstaff to come on and change the game we'd be pissing up a rope.

The problem is that some of the players that started aren't good enough.But because of it being a squad game, until they're replaced by better, they have to get minutes

[Alberto2005]

4 minutes ago, Jonas said:

Thats part of the reason for having them on the bench. To instantly come on and change the game. If we'd needed Murphy and Longstaff to come on and change the game we'd be pissing up a rope.

The problem is that some of the players that started aren't good enough.But because of it being a squad game, until they're replaced by better, they have to get minutes

Could also argue we'd have been winning by the time the shit subs would be coming on.

[Pata]

Don't think it's just the subs that changed the game. It's natural that the leading team drops down a bit deeper and are conceding possession more easily instead of taking risks. Amazing to have some serious options on the bench though after the struggles of last season.

[mouldy_uk]

5 hours ago, Wolfcastle said:

Any manager would still have to play the players Howe has to play. That's our biggest problem by far. 

Don't think anybody can move us forward until we see the back of regularly using some of the names we all know

I’d love to see Pep trying to manage Miggy and Longstaff 

[54]

Luke Edwards asking Howe the questions everyone wants to know:

 

"If you had to pick one, Blur or Oasis?" 

 

 

 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, 54 said:

Luke Edwards asking Howe the questions everyone wants to know:

 

"If you had to pick one, Blur or Oasis?" 

 

 

 

 

[Coffee_Johnny]

Caught the end of the live prematch presser and Eddie signed off with a sharp ‘That was intense’ (not there on available recorded version). Don’t think he’s enjoying the focus of the questions recently.
Quite incredible how much fishing there was re Tonali’s ‘issues’ for example. Louise Taylor, in particular, is making herself very unpopular. 

[Dr Venkman]

Fuck’s gan on in here? 4 points from 6.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

On 25/08/2024 at 16:55, OpenC said:

 

I suppose it comes down to aspirations and expectation. To a degree I can understand it; whenever I heard Klopp or Pep trotting out the No Easy Games line I always felt like they were really just saying it out of a sense of humility more than anything else, because it was the right thing to say.  They would never go to Bournemouth, however tough a game, and be truly satisfied with a battling point on the road. When I hear anybody from Newcastle say it, it still feels like a way to excuse a crappy performance  

 

We're a long way from city and libpewl and I've never felt so distant from this club as I do now, so I agree that it's a tough league with few obvious weak links - I see 'no easy games' as a realistic appraisal, but I suppose for a fair few expectations have been raised these last two sessions.

 

 

 

You’ve never felt as distant from the club as you do now?! 
 

Or did I misunderstand. 

[OpenC]

11 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

You’ve never felt as distant from the club as you do now?! 
 

Or did I misunderstand. 

No, you didn't misunderstand the ownership thing; the difficulty getting to the game; the flat atmospheres and moaning fans in the concourses when you do; the megastar dramas.  It's not all down to Newcastle though; the league we play in and the VAR and randomly applied financial nonsense that's slowly killing it aren't of Newcastle's doing but they take the edge off it further.  Modern top level football is just a more difficult thing for me to really enjoy.

 

It's good to see them doing better than they have for two decades, of course, but honestly I feel next to nowt for them these days, no real attachment at all.  It's mostly my discovery of non-league that's really done it, in all probability - just feels like a more honest and more sporting competition.

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2024 by OpenC

[CheikBoom]

Encouraging to hear Eddie say the relationship with Mitchell is going well. 

[Elliottman]

He seemed very relaxed, laughing and joking a lot. Looks like it will be 1 in max if we’re taking him for his word.

 

Looked genuinely pissed off at Taylor though for asking a bullshit question. Get the impression he can’t stand her, hardly surprising. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

24 minutes ago, OpenC said:

No, you didn't misunderstand the ownership thing; the difficulty getting to the game; the flat atmospheres and moaning fans in the concourses when you do; the megastar dramas.  It's not all down to Newcastle though; the league we play in and the VAR and randomly applied financial nonsense that's slowly killing it aren't of Newcastle's doing but they take the edge off it further.  Modern top level football is just a more difficult thing for me to really enjoy.

 

It's good to see them doing better than they have for two decades, of course, but honestly I feel next to nowt for them these days, no real attachment at all.  It's mostly my discovery of non-league that's really done it, in all probability - just feels like a more honest and more sporting competition.

 

 

Ah OK, makes more sense with an explanation but it's still going some to beat the 15 years under Ashley.