Ronson333 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 4 minutes ago, duo said: league is arguably tougher now as well Yep and due to PSR he can’t sign Shearer, Ferdinand, Asprilla,Ginola etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 8 minutes ago, duo said: league is arguably tougher now as well Partly because teams around us are improving by making canny signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 (edited) 9 minutes ago, duo said: it's easy to find players better than those two - my point is it's not easy to find the Brunos/Botmans for £40 mil Too many excuses I'm afraid. So it's easy to improve on those two but we have refused to do so? Why? If we're finding it so hard to find good players at £40 million then our scouting isn't good enough. We were in the Champions League last year and could have easily competed for both Kudus and Palmer for that price and were never even in the picture. Edited October 27 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 1 hour ago, KaKa said: If Howe kept on saying there was only a small pool of players that could improve us, and then only seemed to focus on a few players when the window was open, how was he shafted during the transfer window? We weren't able to tie up the Tosin deal and focused on Olise even when Bayern and Chelsea were involved, and didn't manage that deal either. These moves were both prior to Mitchell coming in. Then came the Guehi and Elanga debacles, with still so much time to look elsewhere, but apparently these two were part of the small pool, and so we only focused on them even though the fees were sky high. Don't understand the narrative that he was somehow shafted. Olise and Guehi were smokescreens to say we tried to buy, we just didn't have the will or capacity to spend money this summer. When we've had money, we've spent it under Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 15 minutes ago, duo said: it's easy to find players better than those two - my point is it's not easy to find the Brunos/Botmans for £40 mil Oh well if it’s not that easy let’s just not try then. We spent too much time and effort on a few players who it was very unlikely were ever going to come to us anyway. At least we’ve had success in this market before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 4 minutes ago, macphisto said: Olise and Guehi were smokescreens to say we tried to buy, we just didn't have the will or capacity to spend money this summer. When we've had money, we've spent it under Howe. We actually tabled a bid for Guehi, that’s a dangerous smokescreen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: We actually tabled a bid for Guehi, that’s a dangerous smokescreen We also met the release clause for Olise, which is why we were allowed to speak to him. Smokescreen and refusal to spend money is yet another excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 We are fucking pathetic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 It's not all on him, but this looks bleak so far today. Hope it changes fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Lost faith in him now. Defensively he doesn’t give a shit, and for the level we aim to be at, we can’t afford to act like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 9 minutes ago, Gawalls said: We actually tabled a bid for Guehi, that’s a dangerous smokescreen That's how smokescreens work, they are supposed to be "genuine". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 First 10 minutes, showed Chelsea's big dangers. Howe still didn't change anything to stop it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Devoid of ideas this season and arguably found out. No idea on corners and same formation every week. Midfield hasn’t worked all season but still persists with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Feels like the long goodbye is well underway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892er Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Just now, Aiston said: First 10 minutes, showed Chelsea's big dangers. Howe still didn't change anything to stop it. That's the main issue for me. It's like the game plan is the game plan and we don't dare deviate from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Transfer business is killing us, we’ve carried the issue at RW for years, now we need a striker and investment in defence. Still no one carrying the can for the disastrous summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 8 minutes ago, KaKa said: We also met the release clause for Olise, which is why we were allowed to speak to him. Smokescreen and refusal to spend money is yet another excuse. No excuse, when money has been there under Howe, it's easily been spent. Take a step back, PIF didn't spend any money in the summer on transfers, refused to exploit loopholes to get more money into the club, no progress at all on the stadium or training ground even though the decision on the stadium was "imminent" and Saudi clubs spent no where near what they did in the previous summer. You can make valid arguments in each point above but when put together you can see a clear pattern that PIF took a step backwards from football. Maybe they're taking time to decide what they want to do in football and have a joined-up strategy as they have Newcastle, Saudi League and now the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 I’d give Howe until the end of the season no matter how bad it gets, and then judge in the summer. I’ve already written this season off, I think the best we can hope for is mid-table mediocrity. It’s not so much the results, but the performances have been largely uninspiring. This is the first really sticky patch he’s had as our manager. He needs to show he is capable of turning it around, and he does deserve that chance to try and do so. He’s earned it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 31 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: Transfer business is killing us, we’ve carried the issue at RW for years, now we need a striker and investment in defence. Still no one carrying the can for the disastrous summer. Problem with RW is that it’s now digging in to 2-3 years worth of transfer spending. If we bought one last summer instead of Barnes, then we could easily have went out and got either a CB or FW/ST that we needed this summer. We now go into the summer (assuming we will do no major business in January) needing at least 1 CB, a CM/CDM, a ST/FW, and a RW. That’s before we even sell anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 51 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Feels like the long goodbye is well underway. Hate to say it but I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Does feel like we're doing the same things every week and it just isn't working. Part of that is on the board for not investing in the side for a year, but his lack of willingness to try a different formation or change that horrible flat midfield three is getting starker by the week. If he's not worried for his job now, he should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 57 minutes ago, Stifler said: Lost faith in him now. Defensively he doesn’t give a shit, and for the level we aim to be at, we can’t afford to act like that. Tindall sorts the defence. Howe has said himself he’s more of the attacking half of the management team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Just now, Maggies said: Tindall sorts the defence. Howe has said himself he’s more of the attacking half of the management team. Falls down to Eddie though as he’s the manager/head coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jonas Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 59 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: We are fucking pathetic If they 'royal 'we'' I agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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