Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 08:00 Share Posted Thursday at 08:00 The situation hasn’t changed, he needs European football next season or he will be rightfully sacked. 7 points from the next 3 games will put us on 30 points at the half way point of the season, although all 3 games are winnable. That will line us up for a similar points tally as last season, just without the Champions League fatigue and the injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted Thursday at 08:03 Share Posted Thursday at 08:03 6 minutes ago, Rod said: Anyone who wants to get rid of Eddie Howe are complete idiots. End of. Nowt wrong with debate and insightful comment but it's the ones who want him peddled, crack on about how tactically poor he is, how he should set his team up, who's shit, how very easy it is, blah fucking blah. Then put their phone down and get back to work ordering paper clips. Dweebs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTop Posted Thursday at 08:05 Share Posted Thursday at 08:05 (edited) It feels more important the right Newcastle turns up than who we get in the draw right now. I'd bet on us beating anyone if we turn up and play like we have at times this season. Likewise if the other Newcastle turns up we don't stand a chance against any of them 😂. I don't want to get ahead of myself until we play our next away game but you could feel the confidence in the side last night. If we can produce a solid away performance this weekend that will hopefully get that monkey off the players backs and the confidence can snowball. Edited Thursday at 08:09 by BrickTop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Thursday at 08:05 Share Posted Thursday at 08:05 4 hours ago, Weezertron said: Not sure where else to put this. But I think something is happening with this team. I’m feeling the inklings of magic. I had the same feeling after Chelsea, Arsenal and Forest a few weeks back so not convinced yet. Saturday is big though, win that and we set ourselves up for a really good second half of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEToon Posted Thursday at 08:09 Share Posted Thursday at 08:09 (edited) It is 100% correct to the say the situation hasn’t changed, he probably does need European Football and should be judged on that if he actually fails to deliver that rather than the weirdo projections some wanted to put on him the last few weeks speaking of likely midtable finishes when we are so clearly in a race which could see us end well above that and deep in a cup competition. He should be given the chance to fail, if he actually does, not judged on the imposing projection of failure a fair few have been wanting to pin on him Edited Thursday at 08:10 by JEToon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted Thursday at 08:10 Share Posted Thursday at 08:10 4 hours ago, Weezertron said: Not sure where else to put this. But I think something is happening with this team. I’m feeling the inklings of magic. I think I know what you mean. We're starting to open teams up with intricate passing moves around the final third, which we didn't see much of even during our top 4 season. Defensively we're a bit more dodgy than before, but Botman's return should help there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted Thursday at 08:12 Share Posted Thursday at 08:12 5 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: The situation hasn’t changed, he needs European football next season or he will be rightfully sacked. Simple as that is it; just a binary thing? No scope at all for consideration of context? Say we miss out on goal difference, is that still that? Fail, you're out? What if we again don't invest in January (be it through our own incompetence or the rules)? Is it still on him if we narrowly miss out? Howe should only go if it's absolutely clear that he's no longer suitable for the job. What that looks like isn't as black and white as being in or out of Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted Thursday at 08:15 Share Posted Thursday at 08:15 13 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: The situation hasn’t changed, he needs European football next season or he will be rightfully sacked. 7 points from the next 3 games will put us on 30 points at the half way point of the season, although all 3 games are winnable. That will line us up for a similar points tally as last season, just without the Champions League fatigue and the injuries. You are a complete idiot. Stay away from sensible football forums. Have you tried to join RTG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted Thursday at 08:31 Share Posted Thursday at 08:31 14 minutes ago, Rod said: You are a complete idiot. Stay away from sensible football forums. Have you tried to join RTG? The only one not being sensible is you, mind. Spitting your dummy out because he (rightly) says 2 games isn’t enough to get carried away over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEToon Posted Thursday at 08:34 Share Posted Thursday at 08:34 Eddie Howe has only been in charge of us for 2 games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted Thursday at 08:35 Share Posted Thursday at 08:35 (edited) We've been going in and out of form this season, but with Tonali finally being given a run and Botman coming back later on there is hope for some lasting form. Edited Thursday at 08:36 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Thursday at 08:36 Share Posted Thursday at 08:36 20 minutes ago, Rod said: You are a complete idiot. Stay away from sensible football forums. Have you tried to join RTG? Can you not interact with people without the abuse ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted Thursday at 08:41 Share Posted Thursday at 08:41 25 minutes ago, Rod said: You are a complete idiot. Stay away from sensible football forums. Have you tried to join RTG? Don’t talk to people like that - what are you 12? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted Thursday at 08:53 Share Posted Thursday at 08:53 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/crmn4g47lyzo Be prepared to shed a tear or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 09:15 Share Posted Thursday at 09:15 57 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Simple as that is it; just a binary thing? No scope at all for consideration of context? Say we miss out on goal difference, is that still that? Fail, you're out? What if we again don't invest in January (be it through our own incompetence or the rules)? Is it still on him if we narrowly miss out? Howe should only go if it's absolutely clear that he's no longer suitable for the job. What that looks like isn't as black and white as being in or out of Europe. It is as simple as that. If he fails to get us in to Europe for the second season running then I don’t see how the club would see him as still being suitable for the job, other than being a nice guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Thursday at 09:19 Share Posted Thursday at 09:19 (edited) Unfortunately with the squad we have we are entirely reliant on the key players staying injury and suspension free. Isak, Gordon, Bruno and now Tonali are crucial to our form. Right now they all seem to be getting into their stride and playing some nice football. We weren't amazing last night but there were moments where we passed it around and you could see the potential. Remember that little back and forth interchange between Bruno and Tonali that lead to a near post shot. But form and confidence are brittle and you take out Isak for example and if he missed Villa or Man U, would we have much hope of going there and winning with Gordon or Osula up front instead? Don't think so. So I'm trying to be realistic and temper my expectations that while at times we are going to look great, we are still likely to be very inconsistent. Plus we are likely going into the 3rd game in a week with the same line up minus Joelinton. Fatigue will set in over Xmas if we don't rotate them. But we saw what happens at Brentford when we rotate even just a couple. I'm glad he's starting to sub abit earlier but even last night as soon as that 3rd went in I'd have been hooking the likes of Isak immediately but he still waited until about 75mins. Edited Thursday at 09:21 by alexf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted Thursday at 09:23 Share Posted Thursday at 09:23 4 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: It is as simple as that. If he fails to get us in to Europe for the second season running then I don’t see how the club would see him as still being suitable for the job, other than being a nice guy. The only thing "simple" here is your rationale. Luckily, the powers that be will understand the restrictions, limitations and obstacles thrown Howe's/NUFCs way and the pathway forward. Unlike the divvies on here and X they'll not be thinking The Special One could swagger straight in and win the league with a bunch of players that take turns getting called "utter shit" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Thursday at 09:25 Share Posted Thursday at 09:25 9 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: It is as simple as that. If he fails to get us in to Europe for the second season running then I don’t see how the club would see him as still being suitable for the job, other than being a nice guy. even if they’ve failed to back him for a 3rd window running? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted Thursday at 09:28 Share Posted Thursday at 09:28 10 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: It is as simple as that. If he fails to get us in to Europe for the second season running then I don’t see how the club would see him as still being suitable for the job, other than being a nice guy. We have the 8th highest wage bill in the country. Getting into Europe is over-achieving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 09:28 Share Posted Thursday at 09:28 Just now, Fak said: even if they’ve failed to back him for a 3rd window running? If they don’t back him in January and we are not at our PSR limit then I would say they have already made the decision on his future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 09:30 Share Posted Thursday at 09:30 Just now, Interpolic said: We have the 8th highest wage bill in the country. Getting into Europe is over-achieving. So if we gave all of our players a £50k a week pay rise then it wouldn’t be overachieving? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Thursday at 09:31 Share Posted Thursday at 09:31 1 minute ago, Matt1892 said: If they don’t back him in January and we are not at our PSR limit then I would say they have already made the decision on his future. Right bunch of nasty bastards our owners it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Thursday at 09:31 Share Posted Thursday at 09:31 1 minute ago, Matt1892 said: So if we gave all of our players a £50k a week pay rise then it wouldn’t be overachieving? Why would we do that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Thursday at 09:31 Share Posted Thursday at 09:31 Would love to know who all the anti-eddie brigade would like to replace him with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 09:32 Share Posted Thursday at 09:32 7 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: The only thing "simple" here is your rationale. Luckily, the powers that be will understand the restrictions, limitations and obstacles thrown Howe's/NUFCs way and the pathway forward. Unlike the divvies on here and X they'll not be thinking The Special One could swagger straight in and win the league with a bunch of players that take turns getting called "utter shit" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I am amazed that anyone who thinks that Man City should look to sign Harvey Barnes could have the audacity to call anyone a divvy to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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