Eddie Howe

[Erikse]

3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Crosses but also offloading the ball at the right times and cutting the ball back to the edge of the box etc.  

 

Obviously he's not a tiki-taka merchant, but not many flying wingers are. Outside the true elite anyway. 

 

 

As discussed many times it looks more like a direct player who likes counter attacks than one who thrives in games where ball retention is the goal. That doesn't mean that his delivery isn't good. Murphys delivery is also fantastic, but he's also more of a direct player.

 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by Erikse

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I was just saying that based on his highlights he made good decisions and seemed to choose the right ball very often. 

 

Of course they are highlights, and he hasn't show it here yet. 

 

Anyway, even if we'd like to get better in possession, that doesn't mean every player has to have that as their primary attribute. Maybe we're trying to have both. 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Monters]

4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Crosses but also offloading the ball at the right times and cutting the ball back to the edge of the box etc.  

 

Obviously he's not a tiki-taka merchant, but not many flying wingers are. Outside the true elite anyway. 

Agree with you on this... I hadn't seen that much of him but the video that was shared pre signing a lot of his movement, positioning and lay offs etc. seemed really intelligent.

Just goes to show the danger of highlights videos but also still gives (me at least) hope that he can still come good for us, after all he hasn't been here half a season yet! 

[Lush Vlad]

15 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Elanga was a strange tranfser if the goal was to better at keeping the ball. Such a huge transition required us to fully focus on players who can help us play like that.

Well yeah. If you made it far enough through my incoherent waffling. I basically reference that in my last paragraph. 

[samptime29]

Wonder if he goes 5 at back versus City? Wouldn't be surprised. 

[The Prophet]

25 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

 

As discussed many times it looks more like a direct player who likes counter attacks than one who thrives in games where ball retention is the goal. That doesn't mean that his delivery isn't good. Murphys delivery is also fantastic, but he's also more of a direct player.

 

 

 

 

I mean I hate FB Ref as it ignores context, but those stats could also be a result of the role he's been asked to play within the team. 

[Froggy]

1 minute ago, samptime29 said:

Wonder if he goes 5 at back versus City? Wouldn't be surprised. 

 

The Amorim effect.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

14 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

The Amorim effect.

Such an inspirational manager

[Weznufc]

28 minutes ago, samptime29 said:

Wonder if he goes 5 at back versus City? Wouldn't be surprised. 

Hope not, city will just pick us off with ease.  

[HawK]

43 minutes ago, samptime29 said:

Wonder if he goes 5 at back versus City? Wouldn't be surprised. 

 

Gotta get Burn in somehow

[Weznufc]

8 minutes ago, HawK said:

 

Gotta get Burn in somehow

He can't on Saturday 

[tgarve]

11 minutes ago, HawK said:

 

Gotta get Burn in somehow

He’s better than Botman . Not that he can play anyway 

[Geogaddi]

We basically have a squad of players that like to run , press, be aggressive and graft . We are a match for anyone when we do that but we rarely ever do anymore for some reason. It's pointless trying to play any other way with this squad as it's not what they are good at . We don't need to change formation we need to play like we used to when we were good .

 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by Geogaddi

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Can't see a formation change with Burn being out, unless we try to pack the midfield. 

[Erikse]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I was just saying that based on his highlights he made good decisions and seemed to choose the right ball very often. 

 

Of course they are highlights, and he hasn't show it here yet. 

 

Anyway, even if we'd like to get better in possession, that doesn't mean every player has to have that as their primary attribute. Maybe we're trying to have both. 

 

 

 

 

I agree about the final ball, that's how he got so many assists. To me he is a similar player type to Murphy. I think a Murphy compilation would look very similar to the Elanga compilations you can find. I actually think that Elangas attributes fits a lower possession team to a higher degree than Murphys attributes, but we haven't really seen Elanga in a team that tries to keep the ball yet (in the compilations I saw like 90% of the clips were counter attacks). So far, in the very limited time with us, Murphy has looked more effective when we are pushing for a goal higher up the pitch.

 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by Erikse

[AyeDubbleYoo]

You could be right. I'm just reluctant to draw any conclusions yet when he's clearly not in good form. It could be he's just struggling with the move or the pressure, or something else. 

 

If he's playing well and we decide he doesn't fit, fair enough. But I wouldn't say we're near that yet. 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Erikse]

4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

You could be right. I'm just reluctant to draw any conclusions yet when he's clearly not in good form. It could be he's just struggling with the move or the pressure, or something else. 

 

If he's playing well and we decide he doesn't fit, fair enough. But I wouldn't say we're near that yet. 

 

 

 

 

True. It's also a transition phase for Elanga in a way. I'm sure he will hit some kind of form eventually, even if he doesn't become a huge success.

[Mountain]

9 hours ago, tgarve said:

Moron

 

Prove it.

[Mountain]

5 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

I sort of agree with the wider point. But a lot of extremes and assumptions here. 
 

How do you know what they focus on in training? Do you not think part of our issue has been us trying to adapt to a new style. Whilst not having the players for it and having a few key players missing who would make us much better on the ball. Along with the fact we have had a system that has been very successful and hasn’t relied on long spells of possession. 
 

Are they really two of the best midfielders in Europe? Not at ball retention they’re not, surely? Bruno often gets caught hanging onto it too long and plays low percentage attacking passes. The latter I don’t mind. Tonali is a brilliant all rounder. But even he can be a bit loose with the ball and it was mentioned before he came here. 
 

As for Woltemade. Bit early to be crowning him one of the best in Europe and to be honest, he doesn’t fit our setup as it is currently. Huge change to go from an Isak or even a Wilson type, to him. I’m sure Howe would have loved a full pre-season with him and more time on the training ground. I’d imagine he would also want two athletic full backs in the side to assist. Along with wide men who suit better.  They are perfectly suited to how we have played before. But not so much now. 
 

On that last point. That is sort of on Howe. As he certainly seems to have a type of player he prefers. The squad has too many players where the physical attributes seem a lot stronger than the technical. But then the recruitment team, the amount of power he seemingly has in who we sign and the level above him has mostly been amateur since he has been here. So there is some shared responsibility there. But I think you are now moving into a different argument entirely. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

We need better possession, and this can be improved. Simple as that really.

[Guest]

On 19/11/2025 at 17:08, Fak said:

 

 is that how you're trying to dig your way out of it? 

 

 

Haha no digging but given last seasons achievement if you are going to induct him then dont do it alongside a failed NUFC manager

[huss9]

15 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said:

 

Haha no digging but given last seasons achievement if you are going to induct him then dont do it alongside a failed NUFC manager

i've never thought of Roeder as a failed manager.

to me he got us back into europe. that was a great run to get us up to 7th.

and more than that, he was our skipper - and a great one at that - in the 80s.

a gent.

good friend to Gazza also.

 

wont have a bad word said about him.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Yeah there’s a lot more to Roeder and NUFC than his managerial stint, but even then his stint wasn’t that bad and the early part got rid of the sounness stench. 

[huss9]

Just now, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

Yeah there’s a lot more to Roeder and NUFC than his managerial stint, but even then his stint wasn’t that bad and the early part got rid of the sounness stench. 

exactly.

[NEEJ]

47 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said:

 

Haha no digging but given last seasons achievement if you are going to induct him then dont do it alongside a failed NUFC manager

The disrespect to Roeder here is absolutely outrageous, man. 

[Guest]

If he didn't win anything, he failed. Any manager who doesnt achieve what the aim of football is should be deemed to have failed, no matter the level