Coffee_Johnny Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Andy said: who the fuck are you? Someone with a memory and ability to see particular results in the round, oh and take a bit of disappointment without chucking my toys out of the pram. Seems many can’t. Edited December 14, 2025 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I wouldn’t be upset at selling any of the current squad. I would agree but we couldn’t justify the sorts of fees we might get for certain players now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 He's allowed to be criticised, he talks about intensity is our identity, attacking football etc then we play like fucking cowards, no bite no fight should be our identity right now. It will change, he may leave and have faith we will build but he's picking these players, setting the tactics and not really evolving our play. It's garbage to watch, the lack of technical players or knowing how to open teams up after 4 years is pretty astounding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Anyone prefering Howe to be sacked over hoping he turns it around is a wrong'un in my book Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 3 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: I said it at the time but we never improved our 11 at all in the summer and it's showing. Actually there's an argument it's regressed. It has regressed - we lost our star striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 I feel we are going into each game on a rotation basis and not the best eleven for each game. That can't be the right approach as surely you need to adapt your eleven to the opposition. Something has to change and it's currently impacting everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I wouldn’t be upset at selling any of the current squad. Hall and Livramento are good prospects, but they would fetch big money. We do tend to overrate our players generally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Someone with a memory and ability to see particular results in the round, oh and take a bit of disappoint without chucking my toys out of the pram. Seems many can’t. I thought my post was pretty balanced to be honest. Is criticism not allowed? If you can't take a contrary opinion to your own, feel free to use another forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 As much as I'll defend Howe to the hilt, you are basically Baghdad Bob like Shadow Puppets. Even mild criticism is treated like it's extreme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 4 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: It’s not really a shit-show though, is it? A win or two in the league puts us back into the mix for top 6, we’re very likely to qualify for the CL playoffs, and we’re a game away from another cup semi final. It’s nowhere near a “shitshow”. Have you been watching this season never mind those cowardly tactics today The five year plan is based off getting top level European football every season. That's not going to happen this year. A defeat or two in the league could put us lower bottom half also. He gets beat next week against Chelsea and I would not be at all surprised if the club pull the plug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 And never mind the Europe, look at other teams having to cope with that. There was a few moments in the game where we had the ball and were just static up front, no dynamic movement to open them up just keeping width or standing around and easy to mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 7 minutes ago, Keggy_Keagal said: This is starting to smell like when people were thinking Sir Bobby wasn't up to it and then we got Souness. Robson should have been sacked in the summer - the timing was what was wrong with it. The situations aren’t similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, et tu brute said: Have you been watching this season never mind those cowardly tactics today The five year plan is based off getting top level European football every season. That's not going to happen this year. A defeat or two in the league could put us lower bottom half also. He gets beat next week against Chelsea and I would not be at all surprised if the club pull the plug. I don't think the club pulls the plug, as they've no clue who would be next. They'd need a good 3 seasons to react to needing a new manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, joeyt said: He's won the FA Cup and they're in the top 5. Hardly a flavour of the month thing What's Howe done until now? He has a higher win % with over double the amount of games Glasner has had. See where Glasner is after 200 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Robson should have been sacked in the summer - the timing was what was wrong with it. The situations aren’t similar. Also, not a single person other than Freddie Shepherd thought Souness was the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, TRon said: Hall and Livramento are good prospects, but they would fetch big money. We do tend to overrate our players generally. Agreed, but we’ll need to sell to buy in any significant terms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Andy said: I thought my post was pretty balanced to be honest. Is criticism not allowed? If you can't take a contrary opinion to your own, feel free to use another forum. Same applies. It is not a shock read some of the extreme reactions, although yours was more nuanced was still a shock to read you verging on the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 4 minutes ago, TRon said: I don't mind when we get beat by better teams but when you spend so much money and can't separate from a bunch of athletic try-hards down the road, then questions are going to be asked. Not just them but West Ham and Leeds as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 22 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: The risk is you can talk about transitional seasons, but will Tino, Sandro etc buy that No europe next season and both of them will be away Probably lucky that this season is a WC year and there's usually a fairly big turn over of managers post tournament so we may have options. FWIW i think he would take the England job if offered again, his stock can drop just as quick as it has risen (see Potter prior to Chelsea) Of course they won’t. Their agents will already be in contact with other clubs and in their ear. Edited December 14, 2025 by Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, TRon said: Also, not a single person other than Freddie Shepherd thought Souness was the answer. God I remember that feeling all too well when we got Souness. Fucking grim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Kid Icarus said: What's Howe done until now? He has a higher win % with over double the amount of games Glasner has had. See where Glasner is after 200 games. He won the Euopa League with Frankfurt. You're talking about him as if he's just a flash in a pan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: What's Howe done until now? He has a higher win % with over double the amount of games Glasner has had. See where Glasner is after 200 games. I’m not advocating for Glasner nor for getting rid of Howe, but Palace and Newcastle are very different clubs with very different budgets and expectations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 5 minutes ago, joeyt said: He's won the FA Cup and they're in the top 5. Hardly a flavour of the month thing Don't forget Europa League with Frankfurt as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 8 minutes ago, mouldy_uk said: The ‘not sure’ poll nonces need to get off that fence More than enough data on Howe, place that vote I voted no, he’s got until the end of the season for me. If it continues to be this inconsistent and poor performances there needs to be a change. He’s owed time to sort it out imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: I’m not advocating for Glasner nor for getting rid of Howe, but Palace and Newcastle are very different clubs with very different budgets and expectations Yeap, him winning the FA cup was a much bigger achievement than ours with the league cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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