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1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

 

Yep. But he ended up having a great last season and we are still in the CL and the cup competitions. He's earned the credit in the bank as they say, so that's why he'll get the rest of the season to turn things round. I agree it doesn't look great though. 

Yeah, that’s where I am too.  Unless it goes drastically wrong, I’m perfectly comfortable with Howe seeing out the season and us evaluating his position at the end of it. 

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Just now, Lucky said:


The other issue is who would come midseason? It’s just an utterly shit situation.

 

I really hope he does turn it around but then part of me knows we’re just going to be having the same conversation again at some point next season.

 

Who are the next batch of up and coming managers from Europe?

you will if we ever lose 2 in a row again

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1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Agreed - it was a straightforward comparison between their achievements.  I think winning the cup with Palace is a massive achievement. 

If we are just looking at cup wins yes but getting in to the CL not once but twice is an achievement in itself and probably a far greater one than winning a cup (as sad as that is)

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6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

No it wasn't :lol: There's no need to compare really.

 

The League Cup might be seen as the 'junior' cup out of the two, but we played all of the current top 4 at the time we played each team to win it, Palace didn't play any until the final.

 

 

 

 

I know what you mean but winning the FA cup is a bjgger achievement, no one looks at who the teams play during the run.

 

But him winning the FA cup at palace was a bigger achievement, it's actually one of the biggest in history in this country along with Martinez doing it at Wigan for the size of their clubs.

 

 

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Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

Yeah, that’s where I am too.  Unless it goes drastically wrong, I’m perfectly comfortable with Howe seeing out the season and us evaluating his position at the end of it. 

It would be utrterly insane to not do that when we are still competing in so many competitions. And as Dokko pointed out, good luck finding someone decent right now in the middle of the season.

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9 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Because, to me, this place is pretty extreme most of the time. Extreme overreactions to wins. Extreme overreactions to defeats. Match day threads are an absolute embarrassment. And in my experience the opinions on here, generally, thankfully, don’t match up to the general match going public opinion. 
 

I find myself having to provide some balance else we’d be staring at page after page of absolute drivel.

 

 

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You do it over completely valid criticism too

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"Who would you bring in then if Eddie is sacked?" 

 

How many of you had heard of Iraola, Glasner, Silva, Hürzeler etc?

 

There will be loads of decent candidates across Europe. It's all about having the nous at boardroom level to find them.

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1 minute ago, gdm said:

If we are just looking at cup wins yes but getting in to the CL not once but twice is an achievement in itself and probably a far greater one than winning a cup (as sad as that is)

But glasner done it with palace who were massive underdogs and not expected to get champions league on there budget. 

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If he’s going to be replaced then PIF need to show they mean business and throw the kitchen sink at getting Emery. It’s the only appointment that would guarantee progress from the current management team. Anything else would be a gamble.

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So tired of this "We ArE Only 4 PoinTs froM 5tH" talk... That might be the case but there are six, potentially seven teams above us already fighting for the same thing. We've won 6 games out of 16, we are a horrible watch, we are abysmal away from home and cant hold on to a lead to save our lives... I don't know anymore...

 

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Just now, El Prontonise said:

 

I know what you mean but winning the FA cup is a bjgger achievement, no one looks at who the teams play during the run.

 

I think you do if you're comparing how difficult each was to achieve, if one team gets kind draws and another gets really tough ones, it seems a bit unfair to still say one is a bigger achievement just because it has more historical prestige.

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1 minute ago, andycap said:

When we had Longstaff playing we all thought when we upgrade him we will keep the ball better but that doesn't seem to make a difference. 

It must be the tactical approach the manager sets out that's the problem. 

 

That's my biggest issue. We seem to be spending a lot of money on players who look technically deficient to play a possession game. To the uninitiated it looks like he's bought the wrong type of players for the style we are playing. 

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2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

you will if we ever lose 2 in a row again


I know you’re firmly in the Eddie Howe camp but as early as doors I was with my opinion, even you can clearly see a lot of posters on here are saying the same thing I did after the Brighton/West Ham/Brentford games.

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13 minutes ago, duo said:

Eddie's win % at Newcastle - 

50.25%

 

Glasner at Palce-

47%

 

Nuff said.

 

...he's won more trophies than Howe with a far less budget and has had to constantly replace his best players

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Don't want Eddie sacked right now, timing is awful in mid december, especially with no replacement. However we should start looking at potensial replacements regardless. No reason not to, even if he ends up staying.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Wandy said:

If he’s going to be replaced then PIF need to show they mean business and throw the kitchen sink at getting Emery. It’s the only appointment that would guarantee progress from the current management team. Anything else would be a gamble.

 

Why would Emery come here now? The best choice without a doubt, but it's not happening when they are flying high. 

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Just now, TRon said:

 

Why would Emery come here now? The best choice without a doubt, but it's not happening when they are flying high. 


No doubt about it. That’s why PIF would need to throw the sink at him.

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Not sure what to say after sitting through that heap of shit, felt like I'd already seen that game a dozen times already this season. Yet again it was listless, passive, slow, no movement and negative. There was no zip to our play, no bite in the tackle, zero sustained team press at all, caught in possession constantly, passing was shocking and the crossing was worse than that. No invention, more individual mistakes, struggling to defend set pieces whilst simultaneously struggling to create chances from our own work that cunt out. 

 

Zero points when going behind combined with the most points lost after going ahead and all of this dogshit whilst playing the same system week after week, home and away regardless of opposition - we've become a dream to play against - both predictable AND passive, we'll give you time on the ball, space to knock it around and we won't try anything you've not seen in the hours of footage you spend preparing to play us too, aren't we nice, eh? And Howe just appears to just watch it unfold seemingly incapable or unwilling to change anything during the game or at HT, he watches his players tire, sit deeper and deeper and if he's brave enough to make the subs he largely goes like for like, it's just not fucking good enough and it needs to change at some point. How many more games like that will it take? 

 

This squad he's put together needs to get it's collective finger out asap or Howe's going to get sacked. That today, given the circumstances and nature of the game was fucking abysmal, an actual disgrace of a performance and I'll 100% include Howe in that too. I don't want to hear a single apology from the gutless cunts, their apologies are as meaningful as their own performances. To produce that standard of effort and passion in that type of game is unforgivable imo. Pressure is on Howe just to keep his job now and I'm not even joking

 

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1 minute ago, Lucky said:


I know you’re firmly in the Eddie Howe camp but as early as doors I was with my opinion, even you can clearly see a lot of posters on here are saying the same thing I did after the Brighton/West Ham/Brentford games.

yes it's grim. But you could literally cut and paste every season. I presume that you'll just forget all the times you were utterly wrong when you are finally right.

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1 minute ago, Lucky said:


I know you’re firmly in the Eddie Howe camp but as early as doors I was with my opinion, even you can clearly see a lot of posters on here are saying the same thing I did after the Brighton/West Ham/Brentford games.

 

Are you not the guy that predicted we would only get 4 points from 10 games? And we've managed 7 already with a few left?

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I'm Eddie's biggest fan but today's selection and formation were wrong. sunderland are a poor to average team. Get at them and we would have steam rollered them. Sitting back against mighty sunderland was just wrong. Let's hope he knows this and things improve. I'm so gutted!

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