Kid Icarus Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Conjo said: Appreciate the insight, just wanted to highlight that he's not "potentially a brilliant appointment". He's been here for 4 years, and is already a brilliant appointment for us. It's a copy and paste from a post immediately after Howe arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Kid Icarus said: It's a copy and paste from a post immediately after Howe arrived. ah makes sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Shadow Puppets said: Iand the match day threads ARE an embarrassment. They always are. They’re worse than Twitter. Its a live match thread and emotions are high. Look elsewhere if you want something with higher standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 If there was any result and performance that I’d hope and expect would cause people to overreact, well, it’s this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 I'm a very sensible person, a pretty measured fan, not prone to much in the way of kneejerk reactions. That said...for the first time... I'm starting to think it might be time to make a change with Eddie, and it's because his players have decided with their play that it might be time to make a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_cowell141 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) The problem I have with Howe on recruitment is, we knew Elanga was stupidly overpriced and not what we needed. We knew Ramsey had injury problems and not the creative midfielder we were so lacking. We knew we were needing to have backup for fullbacks. And we knew we needed a long term goalkeeping solution. We might've sold Isak for 125m, but we've spunked double that on players who are either bang-average (Elanga, Ramsey, Ramsdale), don't fit our system (Woltemade), or don't have long term resale value or peak performance (Wissa). So many other clubs this summer have shown that much better players could be bought for much, MUCH less money. So the only thing Howe could rely on is knowing exactly how to use these players he's wanted for so long. And that just isn't the case. We're clueless, we're toothless, we lack intensity and tactical understanding, and we're mentally weak. You can't spend that much money on players you want and regress this quickly and not have criticism come your way. I'm not 'Howe Out', but as many have said, he needs to do a deeper rethink than he is letting on. Edited December 14, 2025 by p_cowell141 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Fucking Hellman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 As long as we are in the cups this season he should keep his job. Long term I do have concerns mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, p_cowell141 said: The problem I have with Howe on recruitment is, we knew Elanga was stupidly overpriced and not what we needed. We knew Ramsey had injury problems and not the creative midfielder we were so lacking. We knew we were needing to have backup for fullbacks. And we knew we needed a long term goalkeeping solution. We might've sold Isak for 125m, but we've spunked double that on players who are either bang-average (Elanga, Ramsey, Ramsdale), don't fit our system (Woltemade), or don't have long term resale value or peak performance (Wissa). So many other clubs this summer have shown that much better players could be bought for much, MUCH less money. So the only thing Howe could rely on is knowing exactly how to use these players he's wanted for so long. And that just isn't the case. We're clueless, we're toothless, we lack intensity and tactical understanding, and we're mentally weak. You can't spend that much money on players you want and regress this quickly and not have criticism come your way. I'm not 'Howe Out', but as many have said, he needs to do a deeper rethink than he is letting on. I don’t think we knew anything of the sort TBH. People are just ultra negative about most of our signings and have mostly been proven completely wrong. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Can’t risk losing Andy Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, SUPERTOON said: As long as we are in the cups this season he should keep his job. Long term I do have concerns mind. I think my concerns are more short term because it’s so hard to reinvent a team mid-season with so many games and little training time. Long term I’m sure he will sort it out, question is if we’ll get rid of him before he gets the chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, p_cowell141 said: The problem I have with Howe on recruitment is, we knew Elanga was stupidly overpriced and not what we needed. We knew Ramsey had injury problems and not the creative midfielder we were so lacking. We knew we were needing to have backup for fullbacks. And we knew we needed a long term goalkeeping solution. We might've sold Isak for 125m, but we've spunked double that on players who are either bang-average (Elanga, Ramsey, Ramsdale), don't fit our system (Woltemade), or don't have long term resale value or peak performance (Wissa). So many other clubs this summer have shown that much better players could be bought for much, MUCH less money. So the only thing Howe could rely on is knowing exactly how to use these players he's wanted for so long. And that just isn't the case. We're clueless, we're toothless, we lack intensity and tactical understanding, and we're mentally weak. You can't spend that much money on players you want and regress this quickly and not have criticism come your way. I'm not 'Howe Out', but as many have said, he needs to do a deeper rethink than he is letting on. The problem is that we've signed players to fit a strategy we no longer play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 7 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Its a live match thread and emotions are high. Look elsewhere if you want something with higher standards. Can you suggest somewhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think my concerns are more short term because it’s so hard to reinvent a team mid-season with so many games and little training time. Long term I’m sure he will sort it out, question is if we’ll get rid of him before he gets the chance. I don’t think getting rid of him is remotely in the thoughts of anyone at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think my concerns are more short term because it’s so hard to reinvent a team mid-season with so many games and little training time. Long term I’m sure he will sort it out, question is if we’ll get rid of him before he gets the chance. It’s already a long term issue mind (the away form). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 What has happened to our style of play where we swamp teams and put them under pressure, I understand we have more games this season but our squad is more than capable, its just so shite to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Shadow Puppets said: I don’t think getting rid of him is remotely in the thoughts of anyone at the club. No one has a clue what PIF are thinking though in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 7 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Its a live match thread and emotions are high. Look elsewhere if you want something with higher standards. Just pointing out how ridiculous the reactions are. Every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: I don’t think getting rid of him is remotely in the thoughts of anyone at the club. I hope/think you’re right, just saying if we do get rid of him because of short term results it would be a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, JT24 said: Can’t risk losing Andy Howe. We need moar Elgana’s!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: Just pointing out how ridiculous the reactions are. Every week. It goes both ways to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I hope/think you’re right, just saying if we do get rid of him because of short term results it would be a mistake. a few on here would use up all their subs after 14 minutes if they had their way. Patience of a toddler. But an 80 year old Buddhist monk's patience would be tested by today, and some of the other away performances we've shat out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Can you suggest somewhere? Some deep analytic stuff on other platforms . Just dont expect the match thread to be, all Im saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 5 minutes ago, Ben said: What has happened to our style of play where we swamp teams and put them under pressure, I understand we have more games this season but our squad is more than capable, its just so shite to watch. I guess the options are: it's instructional (to reduce fatigue)/it's because we're playing with a 6ft 7 striker who isn't as mobile as Isak/some of our players are going through the motions. Possibly all of the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 6 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: I don’t think getting rid of him is remotely in the thoughts of anyone at the club. Does anyone know what the club wants anymore? If you are Hopkinson et al, you probably keep Howe regardless for many months to come regardless of results because he is the guy that delivered before and you don’t want your name associated with the man that sacked him. But if club wanted UCL, then surely questions is asked? But then like first point, who the fuck knows what the club vision is? Just being a prem club could be Saudis aim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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