Eddie Howe

[TheBrownBottle]

On 03/11/2025 at 20:22, Joe1984 said:

Howes a disgrace!

 

Been here for 4 years. Saved us from certain relegation. Got in the CL twice and ended our long trophy drought.

 

But we keep losing away, so Howe out?

 

🤣

I mean - yes, that’s how it works tbf.  You can’t write off half of your games after this kind of outlay. 

[JoeyBartoon]

He should be under pressure. He’s had a full calendar year to address the dismal away form and performances, and there’s been little improvement. Personally, I don’t want him gone, but my frustration is growing. There’s far too much loyalty being shown to players who are clearly out of form (Gordon, for example), and he seems too stubborn to move away from the 4–3–3 when it’s clearly not working. 

[Gola]

Back the man. Best manager we've had since Bobby. 

[McDog]

3 minutes ago, Novocastrian said:

The players look knackered though. We’ve got lots of games but a bigger squad, some players (Wolte, Tino etc.) haven’t been able to be rested. We’d all love them to be pressing the life out of the opposition, pinning them in their own half and forcing mistakes but the players don’t look up to it. A lot of the goals conceded in the last 5-10 mins are due to very tired players not following a man or switching off mentally. No idea what the answer is, a bigger squad again? What’s Bunce and the team been up to?

 

Oh I agree. Why does Nick play so many minutes? Is Wissa that unready for more minutes? Alot of these guys are playing crazy minutes due to the fixtures coming fast and furious. I don't have an answer but then again they don't pay me to have answers. The gaffer is the guy that ultimately needs to sort it out one way or another.

[Slim]

2 minutes ago, McDog said:

 

Oh I agree. Why does Nick play so many minutes? Is Wissa that unready for more minutes? Alot of these guys are playing crazy minutes due to the fixtures coming fast and furious. I don't have an answer but then again they don't pay me to have answers. The gaffer is the guy that ultimately needs to sort it out one way or another.

Same guy that told me Wissa was out for ages before it was common knowledge said basically yeah. 

 

Combination of injury risk and lack preseason etc. 

 

 

[Mikky]

For his own sake he needs to put this 4-3-3 /4-5-1 away - it’s hurting the team and specific players in the team - you can change the personnel but those who come in place are being impacted also 

 

Move to a 4-2-3-1 - give us something different - try something different 

[bhoywhonder]

Hes doing the same shit over and over hoping it will click and it's just not happening. What's his plan B?

 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, JT24 said:

Can’t risk losing Andy Howe. 

Not before Xmas anyway.  Imagine the family Xmas dinner if he’s been sacked by his uncle?

[TheBrownBottle]

9 minutes ago, Gola said:

Back the man. Best manager we've had since Bobby. 

It’s hardly a stellar list, and I suspect we’d be able to attract some decent names.  I don’t think Howe should be sitting comfortably at all at the moment - but he probably will, because I don’t think there’s anyone at the club who’ll have that difficult conversation with him. 

[pubteam]

Just now, Mikky said:

For his own sake he needs to put this 4-3-3 /4-5-1 away - it’s hurting the team and specific players in the team - you can change the personnel but those who come in place are being impacted also 

 

Move to a 4-2-3-1 - give us something different - try something different 

Been saying this for a while, teams have moved on. It’s makes it so easy for teams to set up against us when we play the same way every single game.

[McDog]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s hardly a stellar list, and I suspect we’d be able to attract some decent names.  I don’t think Howe should be sitting comfortably at all at the moment - but he probably will, because I don’t think there’s anyone at the club who’ll have that difficult conversation with him. 

 

 

That would likely straight up be a direct order from PIF if that happens I bet.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2025 by McDog

[J7]

Of course he’s under pressure now. He needs to find a way to sort this out. Today is the worst moment of the season, but the whole thing has been poor. We’re nearly half the season in and it’s rinse repeat over and over. 0 points from losing positions and lost 11 from winning positions, not counting Marseille and Leverkusen.
 

Bar Everton and City, we’ve not performed above the bare minimum in any other game and more often than not, well below it. We scraped past Burnley, Fulham and Wolves, and were slightly more comfortable against a Forest team flagging under the leadership of Ange in his last game. That’s basically the wins. Awful at Sunderland, Brighton, West Ham and Brentford. Toothless at Villa (who were shocking), Bournemouth and Leeds. We’ve barely played any of the top clubs away yet. 
 

It can’t keep on going on like this. It’s so far off what we’ve seen the last few seasons, and it’s not just Isak as he missed half the fuckin games.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, McDog said:

 

 

That would likely straight up be a direct order from PIF if that happens I bet.

 

 

 

Agreed, and I don’t get the impression they make more than a cursory glance at us every once in a while

[Slim]

People calling for him to be sacked at various points the past two seasons then turning it around.

 

Probably good job we didn't sack him at them points.  

[Rafalove]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s hardly a stellar list, and I suspect we’d be able to attract some decent names.  I don’t think Howe should be sitting comfortably at all at the moment - but he probably will, because I don’t think there’s anyone at the club who’ll have that difficult conversation with him. 

he has enough credit at least for the end of the season. The players love him, he deserves a bit of loyalty through a rough patch. One of his weaknesses has been his insistence on premier league proven players, and by all reports, he’s open to changing this. 
 

Not his only fault but he has a lot of good qualities too, and which ever manager/coach we bring in to replace him will also have his faults.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, Rafalove said:

he has enough credit at least for the end of the season. The players love him, he deserves a bit of loyalty through a rough patch. One of his weaknesses has been his insistence on premier league proven players, and by all reports, he’s open to changing this. 
 

Not his only fault but he has a lot of good qualities too, and which ever manager/coach we bring in to replace him will also have his faults.

I’d keep him in place until the end of the season too - but I don’t get the impression that the players give a shite about him at the moment.  They’re not exactly giving their all for him.  In terms of transfers, he was (correctly) informed last season by his DoF that the transfer policy wasn’t fit for purpose, which resulted in a public dummy spit. 

[et tu brute]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s hardly a stellar list, and I suspect we’d be able to attract some decent names.  I don’t think Howe should be sitting comfortably at all at the moment - but he probably will, because I don’t think there’s anyone at the club who’ll have that difficult conversation with him. 

They need to be, they need to be slamming the five year plan of his desk in this morning especially after that cowardly performance. The plan that relies on continuous top European competition to progress. He is not the club and the only thing that matters is the team and its progress. 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, et tu brute said:

They need to be, they need to be slamming the five year plan of his desk in this morning especially after that cowardly performance. The plan that relies on continuous top European competition to progress. He is not the club and the only thing that matters is the team and its progress. 

It absolutely does, and the money spunked in the summer makes not only European competition but league placement vital.  I don’t think those who think he gets unlimited time get just how bad all of this is for the club - this could spiral quickly. 

[Whitley mag]

The real worry today was how they just let us come on after they scored and didn’t look in any danger whatsoever of conceding.

 

I suspect had Wolt not put that bullet header away they’d have been a different kettle of fish in last 20 and would have scored anyway.

 

Where miles off and he hasn’t got a clue how to fix it, warning signs were ringing loud and clear last day of the season against Everton, a game we had to win and looked fucking clueless.

 

 

 

 

[The Prophet]

Bit disingenuous to tall about the money spent in the summer when 1) we recouped a lot of it because Howe had to contend with selling one of his best players. A disruptive saga that dragged on all summer 2) he spent virtually nothing in the three transfer windows prior.

[Ronaldo]

4 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Bit disingenuous to tall about the money spent in the summer when 1) we recouped a lot of it because Howe had to contend with selling one of his best players. A disruptive saga that dragged on all summer 2) he spent virtually nothing in the three transfer windows prior.

He also tried to keep his mate Callum Wilson around instead of acting like a CL manager and finding a striker to replace him as priority. That’s what amplified the Isak situation.

[Sibierski]

If we could’ve spent in 2024, it would’ve most likely been £120m on Guehi and Elanga. We’ve now got one of them, and in Thaiw now, it’s negligible the step up Guehi would’ve gave IMO.
 

We got UCL last season without it anyway, then spent it this summer and gone backwards somehow. Isak is a massive loss, but to fall apart on one player, isn’t a glowing endorsement. Especially when it’s now 3 months into the season with a new striker and if anything we’re getting worse the more time we have with him.

[HaydnNUFC]

10 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Bit disingenuous to tall about the money spent in the summer when 1) we recouped a lot of it because Howe had to contend with selling one of his best players. A disruptive saga that dragged on all summer 2) he spent virtually nothing in the three transfer windows prior.

Not really imo.

 

1) Even if you just talk about net spend we spent £100m on footballers and appear to have nothing to show for it outside of Thiaw. Elanga was signed well before Isak kicked up a fuss and other than Woltemade I’m not sure the other signings were related/dependent on the saga. 
2) True, but we finally had a fair wedge to spend to finally improve the team and we look as poor as we ever have done under him. 
 

Elanga has been shocking, Woltemade isn’t involved anywhere near as much as he should be and Willock gets the nod ahead of Ramsey. We look the poorest we’ve been in possession since Bruce was in charge and don’t seem able to change it, so our main creative outlet is depending on turnovers high up the pitch. He’s went to a watered down limp version of what worked before out of fear of a repeat of the 23-24 injures imo which is a dream to play against. Passive, lack of guile and no incisiveness on the ball.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2025 by HaydnNUFC

[TheBrownBottle]

8 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Bit disingenuous to tall about the money spent in the summer when 1) we recouped a lot of it because Howe had to contend with selling one of his best players. A disruptive saga that dragged on all summer 2) he spent virtually nothing in the three transfer windows prior.

He spent a smaller amount because of PSR - which should be a reminder that you don’t get to spend it every summer to fix it, hence there are no ‘transition seasons’ - and I’m sorry, but £250m to come out of it looking worse isn’t buttons.  They’re his signings, if they’d worked he’d rightly be getting praise.   

[Kid Icarus]

34 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I mean - yes, that’s how it works tbf.  You can’t write off half of your games after this kind of outlay. 

Don't think that's how it works unless you're a club with an itchy trigger finger, or Real Madrid tbh. Being 6 points off 4th in a transition season following a trophy winning and second CL qualifying season isn't some kind of travesty.