ChrisMcQuillan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 11 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Funny looking end to this era... That's mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I just can't cope losing to villa after that relegation season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 15 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Funny looking end to this era... To be fair, our 5 opponents are placed 9th, 13th, 14th, 19th and 20th on that table with 4 wins between them across 30 games. Has anyone had an easier run of games than that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 For what its worth, I don't think we could find a better manager to work with the restraints of PSR and get the same results as Howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 When they are in need of a win... FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, TaylorJ_01 said: It's crazy only 1 team from 20 have won 3 in the last 5 don't remember a season like it. Seen a post, on bastard X iirc, about the current Polish league. It's wild Edited..... Edited January 27 by Groundhog63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Sir Joel Inton said: To be fair, our 5 opponents are placed 9th, 13th, 14th, 19th and 20th on that table with 4 wins between them across 30 games. Has anyone had an easier run of games than that? Fixtures are only part of the bigger picture. Liverpool are 17th and had Bournemouth, Burnley, Arsenal, Fulham and Leeds after spending countless billions in the Summer. Man City in 15th also spend billions in most windows and neither of them lost their 20+ goal talisman in the summer. Quite the opposite in one hilarious, heartwarming case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 25 minutes ago, Robster said: When they are in need of a win... FFS We are the team to help these unfortunate teams out. Always have been. Need a win to get out of relegation zone, we'll be there for you. Need a win or point to secure Europe, we'll be there for you. On a massive losing streak, we'll be there for you. We should get Direct Line to sponsor us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 19 hours ago, Sir Joel Inton said: I’ve always been of the belief he’s a fantastic man manager, team builder and coach but a very limited tactician. We’ll have very good periods as a result but also lots of patchy periods where he has to use his man management skills to return out of form players to form. If he was Leicester’s manager when Ranieri was, I think he wins the league with them too. Playing fast counter attacking football and creating/embracing fantastic team spirit and morale. I think what we’re seeing now with Howe is what we’d have if we kept him for the next 10 years. A combination of good/excellent seasons and ‘par’ considering our wage budget/PSR position. I don’t think we’d ever go backwards too far with him but equally I do not think we’d ever get further progression than this. I could live with that, but it doesn’t correlate with the message our owners give on their ambitions. If PIF is serious about the stated ambitions then it goes far beyond the manager. Eddie has overachieved more than anyone can reasonably expect. The stadium, training ground, academy, and major commercial revenue increases are all more important than the manager over the long run. Could Eddie Howe compete at the top of the table with another £100-150m in wages added to the squad? I don’t see why not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: If PIF is serious about the stated ambitions then it goes far beyond the manager. Eddie has overachieved more than anyone can reasonably expect. The stadium, training ground, academy, and major commercial revenue increases are all more important than the manager over the long run. Could Eddie Howe compete at the top of the table with another £100-150m in wages added to the squad? I don’t see why not. Even just getting Ekitike would have us 2nd - 4th IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: If PIF is serious about the stated ambitions then it goes far beyond the manager. Eddie has overachieved more than anyone can reasonably expect. The stadium, training ground, academy, and major commercial revenue increases are all more important than the manager over the long run. Could Eddie Howe compete at the top of the table with another £100-150m in wages added to the squad? I don’t see why not. Aye,These halfwits doubting his tactical know-how because, as we all know, you don't need tactical savvy to turn a relegation doomed team into a regular CL outfit 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 26 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Even just getting Ekitike would have us 2nd - 4th IMO. I think people still underestimate how far behind financially we are to the richest clubs. The difference between us and Arsenal (who are a whole other leap behind City and Liverpool in terms of wages) would mean keeping Isak and adding Ekitike, Olise, and, at minimum, another similar cost player or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Oh man - I know it was unlikely when Bayern came in, but Olise was literally the perfect player we needed for that RW. Szobzoslai also very strongly linked when Liverpool came in - him, Tonali/Joe and Bruno would be one of the best MF's in Europe. That Garcia goalkeeper that went to Barca too. If PSR didn't exist, these were all linked and reasonable for us to go after. In the Staveley and Ashworth days we may well have gotten one or two of them. But I know the main issue is finances by and large. Feel like our calibre has gone down a notch or two. We wouldn't be able to attract a Bruno, Tonali or Isak today - they joined because they thought PIF were going to make us the next Man City. Now it's clear we're an Aston Villa or Spurs equivalent, we're attracting the next calibre down. Not Guehi, but Thiaw. Not Ekitike, but Woltemade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: Oh man - I know it was unlikely when Bayern came in, but Olise was literally the perfect player we needed for that RW. Szobzoslai also very strongly linked when Liverpool came in - him, Tonali/Joe and Bruno would be one of the best MF's in Europe. That Garcia goalkeeper that went to Barca too. If PSR didn't exist, these were all linked and reasonable for us to go after. In the Staveley and Ashworth days we may well have gotten one or two of them. But I know the main issue is finances by and large. Feel like our calibre has gone down a notch or two. We wouldn't be able to attract a Bruno, Tonali or Isak today - they joined because they thought PIF were going to make us the next Man City. Now it's clear we're an Aston Villa or Spurs equivalent, we're attracting the next calibre down. Not Guehi, but Thiaw. Not Ekitike, but Woltemade. Got to factor in the rest of the premier league are not here to help us and wont help us out with loans etc, also agents of players will be on the blower to any of the self proclaimed top 6 that NUFC have just bid on their client and they might wan to get a bid in. See Ekitike and Sesko. Something that sticks in my mind was something Carra said when we finished 4, it was MNF, it was something like "nufc wont be allowed to go for the top players". Almost like he knew we would be locked out of these transfers. I think we need to be clever and buy young talent ahead of their development before the so called top 6 are interested. This will obviously come with risk, as some will fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Ignore me, this is just me reserving my seat for later 🪑 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I am hoping that this run of away fixtures could see some more positive results for Howe. We have really struggled to break the weaker teams down and create much but have been very solid. Hopefully we can continue to be solid but show something on the counter attack against the teams that will have a go at us. Not opposed to seeing 5 at the back in a few of these away games where we are going to be required to sit deeper and defend, it has worked well in the past against the bigger teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Wolves quickly closing the gap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) You look at that table and you really can't believe the stick he gets , our team was so bad when he took over as well and he's had to put up with all the nonsense from the cartel and he has still got us the 5th most points and a cup since he took over . Edited January 28 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earp Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: You look at that table and you really cant believe the stick he gets , our team was so bad when he took over as well and he's had to put up with all the nonsense from the cartel and he has still got us the 5th most points and a cup since he took over . well said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Speaking of giving youth a chance, where on Earth is the Park kid?! Considering how good he looked in pre season, I can't believe he hasn't had the odd cameo at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 13 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: You look at that table and you really cant believe the stick he gets , our team was so bad when he took over as well and he's had to put up with all the nonsense from the cartel and he has still got us the 5th most points and a cup since he took over . 100% agree, I think Howe is the best manager we can possibly have, IMO he's been let down by those that should be helping him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 12 minutes ago, KaKa said: Speaking of giving youth a chance, where on Earth is the Park kid?! Considering how good he looked in pre season, I can't believe he hasn't had the odd cameo at some point. He looked talented in pre-season but also a bit like a kid playing with adults. Sure he weighs about the same as one of Joelinton's legs. Edited January 28 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 12 minutes ago, KaKa said: Speaking of giving youth a chance, where on Earth is the Park kid?! Considering how good he looked in pre season, I can't believe he hasn't had the odd cameo at some point. He came from the Korean second division, he's probably well off it for PL level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I blame this all on that slimy cunt Ashworth, things could have been even better had he stayed imo. Oversaw Hall coming in, probably the most un-Eddie player ever, yet has become one of our best players. Livramento as well but you can see why Eddie might be more on board with that sort of player with his physical attributes. Transfer business has been markedly poorer without a DoF/Stavely etc. here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 23 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: You look at that table and you really cant believe the stick he gets , our team was so bad when he took over as well and he's had to put up with all the nonsense from the cartel and he has still got us the 5th most points and a cup since he took over . Can't do tactics, too stubborn, not elite Apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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