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Answered a lot of my criticism with being able to with success rotate a few players and changing up the playstyle. Just don't get why he can't do that more often.

But atleast it shows that he has is it in him. 

 

Still doesn't answer the biggest criticism of how much we struggle against a low block though, but nobody's perfect I guess.

 

To me he now gets the next season pretty much regardless of what happens going forward. Hope we avoid conferance/Europa myself and he can get a clean run in the PL. I'd take another CL campaign ofcourse, but hard to see that happening.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Answered a lot of my criticism with being able to with success rotate a few players and changing up the playstyle. Just don't get why he can't do that more often.

But atleast it shows that he has is it in him. 

 

Still doesn't answer the biggest criticism of how much we struggle against a low block though, but nobody's perfect I guess.

 

To me he now gets the next season pretty much regardless of what happens going forward. Hope we avoid conferance/Europa myself and he can get a clean run in the PL. I'd take another CL campaign ofcourse, but hard to see that happening.

 

 

 

I think it does.

 

In the PL - he always thinks we need strength and athleticism. So 3 proper midfielders that go up and down. He was happy to put Ramsey in a 2 man pivot because he's up against Vitinha and co, physically that's still in our favour.

 

The question is whether he's willing to take those gambles in the league with a back 4.

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9 hours ago, Wilson said:

Spent about half and hour after the game bickering with wor kid about him, he's Howe out and has his reasons, I'm not.  

 

There seems to be a counter to every he says and he has one to everything I say. 

 

He's not daft and I get some points but fuck me, I don't want anyone else in charge for a long time. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

I think it does.

 

In the PL - he always thinks we need strength and athleticism. So 3 proper midfielders that go up and down. He was happy to put Ramsey in a 2 man pivot because he's up against Vitinha and co, physically that's still in our favour.

 

The question is whether he's willing to take those gambles in the league with a back 4.

 

 

Also when there is more at stake. It was a bit of a free hit yesterday, so while the rotation worked out, I want to see how the rest of the PL season pans out, because there are some hard fixtures to come. 

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We should use that system more over the coming weeks with some difficult fixtures. Got it tactically absolutely spot on last night and sort of proved why people who want him out should be hasty in their judgement.

 

As I've said on here prior, he's got more than enough grace for a bad period and definitely deserves a chance to figure out the performances in the league.

 

That being said, we do tend to perform better in 'big' games. It's the bread and butter we've struggled in, but there's still plenty time to make this another season to remember.

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35 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

 

 

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I had to stay away. Yorkie said so.

 

You know what? I respect Eddie for the ballsy move. He made changes, changed formation, altered the approach of play and got a cracking result. I didn't watch but I did follow the discourse. 

 

We will always look better as the "dog" though. It's just how we thrive which ironically makes Eddie a victim of his own success. We need to work on when we are dominant which for the most part is every game in the league. That's where we are struggling. 

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I think what surprised me most and what I liked about last night is how we were in the ball.

 

After the the whirlwind first 15 mins or so where we were getting destroyed by their speed, movement and quick passing. I thought we were surprisingly good at playing the ball out at times and almost because they were pressing us with such speed it forced players to move the ball quickly, especially likes of Ramsey and Tonali in tight spaces at times. 

 

Sure we gave the ball away a few times and to be expected when possession is something of a weakness for us normally and missing likes of Bruno doesn't help. 

 

But that Villa game felt like watching a match in slow motion in comparison to this. So hopefully it's something we carry forward now.

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1 hour ago, alexf said:

I think what surprised me most and what I liked about last night is how we were in the ball.

 

After the the whirlwind first 15 mins or so where we were getting destroyed by their speed, movement and quick passing. I thought we were surprisingly good at playing the ball out at times and almost because they were pressing us with such speed it forced players to move the ball quickly, especially likes of Ramsey and Tonali in tight spaces at times. 

 

Sure we gave the ball away a few times and to be expected when possession is something of a weakness for us normally and missing likes of Bruno doesn't help. 

 

But that Villa game felt like watching a match in slow motion in comparison to this. So hopefully it's something we carry forward now.

 

:thup: we were so calm and proactive on the ball last night, was great to see. 

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13 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

 

:thup: we were so calm and proactive on the ball last night, was great to see. 

Funnily enough I don't think we were.

 

Had we been out our very best - tighter on the ball we get a couple more opportunities on the counter and win it.

 

Still a great performance mind

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4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Funnily enough I don't think we were.

 

Had we been out our very best - tighter on the ball we get a couple more opportunities on the counter and win it.

 

Still a great performance mind

That first half in particular was backs to the wall sort of stuff. Clearing our lines only for it to seem like that ball had a magnet in it to get back to a PSG player. 

 

Happened in the second half but felt alot more side ways stuff from them and not alot of penetratration something we have ourselves of doing when we have more of the ball. 

 

Barnes and Gordon gave them more/something different to worry about in the second half as our pace looked to hurt them had Gordon or Barnes efforts gone in it would have been deserved. The Gordon chance in particular was a shame keeper parried it away just wish someone was up there closing in on the stray ball. 

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8 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Funnily enough I don't think we were.

 

Had we been out our very best - tighter on the ball we get a couple more opportunities on the counter and win it.

 

Still a great performance mind

 

Compared to other away performances this season it was night and day. Passing out of a tight press then getting it forward quickly and accurately. The final ball was often still lacking, would agree there. 

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Just now, nufcjmc said:

That first half in particular was backs to the wall sort of stuff.

 

Genuinely think anyone describing the first half like this is viewing through an anti-Howe lens. After the first 15 minutes the game was even at worst. We looked dangerous quite consistently. 

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1 minute ago, Interpolic said:

 

Genuinely think anyone describing the first half like this is viewing through an anti-Howe lens. After the first 15 minutes the game was even at worst. We looked dangerous quite consistently. 

Howe himself said he felt it took us 30 mins to grow into the game. 

 

Backs to the wall is probably the wrong way of phrasing it except as you say first 15 mins there they had 85+ possession. But certainly not anti howe at all. 

 

There forward line is scary good we nullified them as best we could and tried to ask questions when we could. It was as close to the most perfect away performance this season as we have seen and the tactics worked. 

 

That wasnt to say when looking back both sides has chances to win the game thinking that chance dembele got in behind and turned and shot went just wide. 

 

Always a bit of luck involved in anything in life but I am encouraged with the performance if it can be rolled forward. 

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I think as long as Bruno & Joelinton are out, he'll keep the 3 centre-backs as a way to bring Burn back into his XI.

 

I liked Ramsey in there yesterday, he was a bit careless with the ball trying to get out of our third, but his athleticism along with Tonali's meant we always kept our shape and got into position quickly, so I didn't really mind it. Probably going to be harsh on Willock but the only changes I'd make at the weekend are him, Elanga & Woltemade out for Barnes, Gordon & Wissa. There is an argument though that if we can repeat today and stay in the game with Willock & Elanga doing a lot of the running and hard yards for half an hour, Gordon & Barnes could win a match between them. 

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17 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

 

Genuinely think anyone describing the first half like this is viewing through an anti-Howe lens. After the first 15 minutes the game was even at worst. We looked dangerous quite consistently. 

 

And how often do we (and other teams) come storming out of the blocks at home in a big game? It's a pretty normal thing.

 

Another example of people pretending we're the only ones with a say on the game.

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12 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

Howe himself said he felt it took us 30 mins to grow into the game.

 

Got the quote as this is all I could find? 

 

"We were conceding too many chances, and I thought Paris played really well in that opening 20 minutes." 

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13 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

I think as long as Bruno & Joelinton are out, he'll keep the 3 centre-backs as a way to bring Burn back into his XI.

 

I liked Ramsey in there yesterday, he was a bit careless with the ball trying to get out of our third, but his athleticism along with Tonali's meant we always kept our shape and got into position quickly, so I didn't really mind it. Probably going to be harsh on Willock but the only changes I'd make at the weekend are him, Elanga & Woltemade out for Barnes, Gordon & Wissa. There is an argument though that if we can repeat today and stay in the game with Willock & Elanga doing a lot of the running and hard yards for half an hour, Gordon & Barnes could win a match between them. 

 

 

I actually thought Ramsey and Willock's athleticism combined with their ball carrying ability played a big part in our performance yesterday. I am interested to see whether bringing Bruno back in will affect that against Liverpool since I think they will provide a similar challenge. Obviously Bruno brings a lot more invention and vision so it's an interesting decision. 

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2 minutes ago, Mike said:

I think there's a ton of meat on a Ramsey JoeL Willock bully motherfuckers midfield.

 

Well Joelinton is out for a few weaks so might have to temper that midfield with some Wolt-style veggies. 

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