timeEd32 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: We could also make 3 or 4 great signings next summer We will never make a good signing again. No one still at the club was involved in the signings of Trippier, Burn, Bruno, Pope, Botman, Isak, Gordon, Barnes, Livramento, Hall, or Thiaw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: We could also make 3 or 4 great signings next summer What direction do you think Eddie will go with those signings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Weezertron said: What direction do you think Eddie will go with those signings? Erm, not sure exactly what you mean but guess it could go various ways. I think it'll be difficult to transition to possession football because of the number of technicians you need to execute that style. But I would like to see great touch and ball retention made important. I don't think our style is irredeemable like, it has strengths and weaknesses but I don't think it's a style that's fundamentally a bad idea. If that's what you mean. It hasn't worked very well this season obviously. FWIW I've always said that no manager should be all powerful on transfers, but obviously he has to want to use any players that come in. Edited February 5 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 14 hours ago, Keegans Export said: There are lots of very good reasons to stick with Eddie, but this isn't one of them. I strongly believe we have to look at a different market for players but because I don't really have a clue who those players are, does that mean I'm wrong? We have a team full of experts who's job it is to find those players so the fact that some mug like me can't draw up a shortlist doesn't mean we therefore have to keep doing what we did last summer. Sorry to call you out here, I see a lot of people drop that line and it does annoy me a bit because it takes away from a lot of very credible, valid reasons why he should stay. You raise a fair point but I do also think it's fair for folk like me to ask what a proposed solution looks like and not just the problem. I honestly don't think there is a better manager we'd get than Howe. I think there are flaws to almost every argument made against him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 37 minutes ago, Weezertron said: Curious what people think Eddie’s way out of this is? We finish mid table. I don’t think that’s the biggest disaster. say we lose 2 purples at the least in the summer (Tino and Tonali). Maybe 3. how does he get this team functioning again (bad summer signings) and the club pointed back in the right direction? Howe in, but understand there needs to be a plan to move beyond this. He said again yesterday that he was forced into playing a different system due to the circumstances, but he'd always rather go with Plan A and get that right. So he needs to stick with Wissa up front for me and just get us playing a system where everyone is doing their job and it looks like a plan. We might not always win, but we have enough high value players in the squad to get better results than we have in the first half of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, Dr Venkman said: What was your previous username and why don’t you post using that anymore? Probably be a better use of your time to just not respond to my post if you have nothing constructive or credible to say. This username ‘bantz’ is absolutely lifting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 25 minutes ago, TRon said: He said again yesterday that he was forced into playing a different system due to the circumstances, but he'd always rather go with Plan A and get that right. So he needs to stick with Wissa up front for me and just get us playing a system where everyone is doing their job and it looks like a plan. We might not always win, but we have enough high value players in the squad to get better results than we have in the first half of the season. I’m genuinely interested to see what he’ll do to correct course in the summer. He’s an intelligent football man, he must be able to see it isn’t working - and perhaps some of what isn’t working cannot be fixed with the current personnel. It feels to me like we need a real refresh in the summer - I wouldn’t be at all upset to see half a dozen players leave including some first teamers. It’s only if Howe’s proposal is more of the same that I think the board should consider giving him the bullet at that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’m genuinely interested to see what he’ll do to correct course in the summer. He’s an intelligent football man, he must be able to see it isn’t working - and perhaps some of what isn’t working cannot be fixed with the current personnel. It feels to me like we need a real refresh in the summer - I wouldn’t be at all upset to see half a dozen players leave including some first teamers. It’s only if Howe’s proposal is more of the same that I think the board should consider giving him the bullet at that point. Can you really see him advocating a mass clear out? I can’t and it would be a mad strategy; hoping a load of newbies gel and improve what we already have. If more of the same amounts to letting him make football decisions in his way, strategy/style/tactics wise then I think it is pretty much nailed on that ‘more of the same’ will be exactly what he proposes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 18 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Can you really see him advocating a mass clear out? I can’t and it would be a mad strategy; hoping a load of newbies gel and improve what we already have. If more of the same amounts to letting him make football decisions in his way, strategy/style/tactics wise then I think it is pretty much nailed on that ‘more of the same’ will be exactly what he proposes. If he doesn’t he’s fucked would be my view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’ve seen the ‘he didn’t get his first choices’ crack a fair bit, and it isn’t convincing to me. Ekitike also didn’t seem to be first choice - Joao Pedro was. And I don’t think Pedro would fit into the system any better than Woltemade. Most managers know they won’t necessarily get their ‘first choice’ into the position - that’s cloud cuckoo land stuff. Unless we’re saying Howe and his team signed a load of players they didn’t want, then they signed players they wanted to sign. Signings are pretty much always a compromise unless you’re Real Madrid. Or Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea or Manchester United really. Maybe they sometimes fall to target 2 or 3, but not 6/7 like us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 "If you bring too many players in, that can have a negative impact in terms of upheaval of the team and relationships not forming." countered by... ‘I think freshness is important in a squad, I won’t sit here and deny that. There needs to be a certain element of trading in and out to keep the group dynamic new. A new dynamic and a new team always has to form every season. Sometimes, the same squad can produce a staleness and a negative product.' ----- I would guess our baseline summer (meaning one where we don't lose anyone against our will) will see us add no more than 4-5 new players. It's a little premature given we have a few months of the season left, but I think what we do will be very telling about last summer and this season. Add a GK, RB/CB, CM, and maybe some kind of forward player and I'd say that's his normal approach. He's generally happy with the team, expects development and improvement from the 2025 signings, and thinks this season had some mitigating circumstances. Selling low on a summer signing would be an admission mistakes were made. You could bucket Kelly and, to a slightly lesser extent, Wood into this group from the past. Would we sell Wissa on if someone gave us £30-35m and we had a younger, more exciting alternative? Something more drastic could signal either a change in approach or, more likely IMO, an admission that the team is stale. Maybe on top of replacing Pope, Trippier, Willock, and Osula we sell a couple regulars (Gordon and Joelinton?) for a larger overhaul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 51 minutes ago, Theregulars said: Or Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea or Manchester United really. Maybe they sometimes fall to target 2 or 3, but not 6/7 like us. I agree, but then we knew that before last summer. The Sesko saga was proof of how amateur we were - it was patently obvious what was going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 8 hours ago, Sir Joel Inton said: Probably be a better use of your time to just not respond to my post if you have nothing constructive or credible to say. This username ‘bantz’ is absolutely lifting. I’m interested, humour me. We’re humouring you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 9 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: I’m interested, humour me. We’re humouring you. Reminds me of Fantail Breeze. He was a delight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 21 minutes ago, Froggy said: Reminds me of Fantail Breeze. He was a delight Was my shout too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Was my shout too I'm still not talking to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Collage Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 10 hours ago, timeEd32 said: We will never make a good signing again. No one still at the club was involved in the signings of Trippier, Burn, Bruno, Pope, Botman, Isak, Gordon, Barnes, Livramento, Hall, or Thiaw. Eddie Howe (and Nickson) Edited February 6 by Collage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) Never really understood the mindset of opting for a fresh start, and then just doing the same thing all over again. Look forward to having this conversation again in 2027 when Sir Joe Linton has mysteriously stopped posting and Regen#453 is all over the forum. Edited February 6 by LiquidAK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 15 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: Never really understood the mindset of opting for a fresh start, and then just doing the same thing all over again. Look forward to having this conversation again in 2027 when Sir Joe Linton has mysteriously stopped posting and Regen#453 is all over the forum. Assuming it was a credibility issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I’m probably in the wrong here but can’t help be a bit embarrassed as a fan. A section of our support - almost exclusively online - who wants Howe out is making that much noise it’s lead to journalists asking if he’s going to step down at the end of the season. It’s not even a year since we’ve won the cup. Have we played shit for a large part of the season? Yes. Results have been up and down. Performances have been erratic. There’s mitigating factors though. Injuries - we’ve barely had our strongest 11 on the same field, the Isak saga, none of his replacements have been without issue. We’ve also conceded some horrific goals from individual errors at some really momentum crushing times. Howe has to adapt as well. Could anyone say with what we’ve had available anyone could have done much better over his tenure? I honestly don’t think there should be a single question about Howe until at least half way through next season. If we’re still is shit then fair enough. Everything before looks fickle and makes us look like mugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Who the fuck is asking him that? Jesus wept. They're a sorry fucking shower in that press room aren't they. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 minute ago, St1pe said: I’m probably in the wrong here but can’t help be a bit embarrassed as a fan. A section of our support - almost exclusively online - who wants Howe out is making that much noise it’s lead to journalists asking if he’s going to step down at the end of the season. It’s not even a year since we’ve won the cup. Have we played shit for a large part of the season? Yes. Results have been up and down. Performances have been erratic. There’s mitigating factors though. Injuries - we’ve barely had our strongest 11 on the same field, the Isak saga, none of his replacements have been without issue. We’ve also conceded some horrific goals from individual errors at some really momentum crushing times. Howe has to adapt as well. Could anyone say with what we’ve had available anyone could have done much better over his tenure? I honestly don’t think there should be a single question about Howe until at least half way through next season. If we’re still is shit then fair enough. Everything before looks fickle and makes us look like mugs. It's embarrassing as fuck , no wonder other fans take the piss out of us and call us deluded etc. I know it's mainly people online and it's hard to take many of them seriously but for a question like that to be asked after everything he has achieved here makes you think we deserve to be stuck with Ashley as owner and Bruce as manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Let's name and shame here, who asked him if he would step down FFS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Probably that mackem bint from the Guardian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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