Eddie Howe

[dcmk]

Just now, nufc123 said:

You dont think a nufc fan is emotionally intelligent enough for the ups & downs of supporting a team?

Yes.  Some fans here aren't.

[stozo]

25 minutes ago, cannybagoftudor said:

If I remember his interview correctly, he stated that he doesn't know why it is happenening and these things just occur randomly and it will "hopefully" right itself. That bit of info was a tad WTF. As the manager he should be able to identify what is going wrong and have a plan to correct it. Doesn't sound like he does - much as I hate to say it, because I think he is the best thing I have seen for NUFC in my 50 years of support, but his race may be run.  

To be fair, I think this is where you need to read between the lines with Howe. The truth is the attack doesn’t work with the players we have, but he can’t exactly throw the team under the bus by saying that with six to play. Every interview, he takes the blame and never puts players in the firing line. I’m sure he wants to say, like many of us, ‘Fuck me, we badly need the summer transfer window’ but he’s a professional. The truth is the final six, as has been the case for the most of the season, will be ‘grind them out’ games decided by a single goal. There is probably nothing Howe can do with the players he has to change that. 

[Dokko]

I really do wish our team would defend as well as dcmk & KI do for Howe. 

[bobbydazzla]

6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

That one year of evidence when they were relegated, or all the other seasons of evidence where he quite often turned it around?

It’s all relevant evidence. 

 

That’s the point I was making.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 12 by bobbydazzla

[nufc123]

1 minute ago, dcmk said:

Yes.  Some fans here aren't.

Quite disrespectful I have to say.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Dokko said:

I really do wish our team would defend as well as dcmk & KI do for Howe. 

[dcmk]

Just now, bobbydazzla said:

I’m not focusing on a single season of failure, I’m simply saying he didn’t leave Bournemouth on a high after having an unbelievable amount of success there.
 

He ran out of steam there. 
 

He might run out of steam here.

 

He might not run out of steam here. 

 

That’s all I’m saying. 

All teams will have poor seasons, there is no getting a way from it.  A season of getting it wrong at a team like Bournemouth would be a relegation.  Take a look at the injuries he had that year by the way, with a small squad of players he had. Almost inevitable.

 

Our problems however are vast and more complicated in comparison.  And stems from the summer recruitment, which are problems he didn't cause.

 

[SUPERTOON]

Pointless stat, but interesting anyway, in his last season at Bournemouth, they lost 21 points from winning positions. Another thing mirroring this season for us.

[ChrisMcQuillan]

2 minutes ago, Dokko said:

I really do wish our team would defend as well as dcmk & KI do for Howe. 

Very good.  

[Maggies]

Teams need a rebuild. Howe won’t lead it, so needs replaced on that basis alone.

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, Dokko said:

I really do wish our team would defend as well as dcmk & KI do for Howe. 

 Canny funny tbf.

 

Give it enough time and you'll flip-flop right back again Dokko.

[dcmk]

3 minutes ago, Dokko said:

I really do wish our team would defend as well as dcmk & KI do for Howe. 

 

Let's be honest.  Doesn't the man deserve some backing on here and some benefit of the doubt.

[Yorkie]

29 minutes ago, Zero said:

our biggest problem is our defense and ability to hold on the lead. Stop the lack of goals non-sense. We didn’t have a lot of draws. We successfully score goals and then throw the game away. I have had enough for this bullshit. And I know why, because this is the best defense you guys can find for Howe, while the defence record is solely on Howe

 

Honestly man my post wasn't intended as a defence of Howe. Our lack of goals is as much on him as anybody else, with or without training time. His job is to find solutions and, by and large, he hasn't succeeded in that this season. I think he's been let down very badly by certain individuals but still, it's not amateurs he's working with.

 

Regarding the 'biggest problem' argument, I do accept the opposing view that it boils down to our defensive sloppiness. (Also responding to @Jesse Pinkman). However, my point has always been that goals relieve pressure on the defence and without a slick attacking unit to ensure we get enough of a gap, it's bred defensive errors and psychological weakness.

 

Our record when we've gone (at least) two goals in front:

 

2022/23: P14 W13 D1 L0 (93% win rate)

2023/24: P12 W12 D0 L0 (100%)

2024/25: P13 W13 D0 L0 (100%)

2025/26: P6(!) W5 D1 L0 (83%)

 

Our record when we've gone to a maximum of one goal in front:

 

2022/23: P11 W7 D3 L1 (64%)

2023/24: P13 W6 D4 L3 (46%)

2024/25: P10 W7 D2 L1 (70%)

2025/26: P15 W7 D1 L7 (47%)

 

Build on a lead, we win almost every time, even this season. Fail to build on a lead, we're prone to dropping points. 

 

We've also already matched our worst record under Howe so far on terms of games where we haven't scored at all (7).

 

Attack is the best form of defence, basically.

 

Once again. None of this is a defence of Howe. I'm just making a case for the biggest issue and it is quite clear to me what's changed compared to previous seasons. 

[bobbydazzla]

11 minutes ago, dcmk said:

All teams will have poor seasons, there is no getting a way from it.  A season of getting it wrong at a team like Bournemouth would be a relegation.  Take a look at the injuries he had that year by the way, with a small squad of players he had. Almost inevitable.

 

Our problems however are vast and more complicated in comparison.  And stems from the summer recruitment, which are problems he didn't cause.

 

 

From our resident Bournemouth fan:
 

 

He's very meticulous in his approach to tactics which led to us playing some absolutely stunning beautiful football at times, but in his latter days he did show a bit of an unwillingness to change style and personel which held us a back a bit. He takes his time with new signings so I wouldn't necessarily expect to see any January transfers walk straight into the team. He usually took a good 6 months at least to bed a player into the setup before he trusted them in the starting 11.

 

One thing I'm really interested in is how he deals with your board. At Bournemouth he was known for being a control freak and pretty much directly oversaw all aspects of the club (think SAF at man u or Wenger at Arsenal), and one of the rumoured reasons why he left when we went down was that our board tried to change some of that and he basically walked. I'm not sure how this will translate to your current circumstance and how much Eddie has chnaged in this regard over his long break from football, as his obsessiveness and full effort definitely contributed to his downfall at the end of his time with us.

[Wallsendmag]

16 minutes ago, dcmk said:

Yes.  Some fans here aren't.

 

Grow up man 

[dcmk]

6 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

From our resident Bournemouth fan:
 

 

He's very meticulous in his approach to tactics which led to us playing some absolutely stunning beautiful football at times, but in his latter days he did show a bit of an unwillingness to change style and personel which held us a back a bit. He takes his time with new signings so I wouldn't necessarily expect to see any January transfers walk straight into the team. He usually took a good 6 months at least to bed a player into the setup before he trusted them in the starting 11.

 

One thing I'm really interested in is how he deals with your board. At Bournemouth he was known for being a control freak and pretty much directly oversaw all aspects of the club (think SAF at man u or Wenger at Arsenal), and one of the rumoured reasons why he left when we went down was that our board tried to change some of that and he basically walked. I'm not sure how this will translate to your current circumstance and how much Eddie has chnaged in this regard over his long break from football, as his obsessiveness and full effort definitely contributed to his downfall at the end of his time with us.

Aye, I've seen that before.

 

We need to see how the summer goes.  Worked well with Ashworth by all accounts, Ashworth reportedly wanted him in at Man Utd.

 

Based on Mitchell's handling of Isak and the reported promises made and broken by him.  We are better off without him (Mitchell).

 

 

 

Edited April 12 by dcmk

[bobbydazzla]

4 minutes ago, dcmk said:

Aye, I've seen that before.

 

We need to see how the summer goes.  Worked well with Ashworth by all accounts, Ashworth reportedly wanted him in at Man Utd.

 

Based on Mitchell's handling of Isak and the reported promises made and broken by him.  We are better off without him.

 

I’m neutral on Howe by the way, I can see the potential positives and negatives of both sticking and twisting. 
 

 

 

 

Edited April 12 by bobbydazzla

[Leemond]

21 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Pointless stat, but interesting anyway, in his last season at Bournemouth, they lost 21 points from winning positions. Another thing mirroring this season for us.

Think there's a decent chance we end up in the relegation battle looking at our upcoming games 

[Stifler]

2 minutes ago, Leemond said:

Think there's a decent chance we end up in the relegation battle looking at our upcoming games 

We aren’t ending up in a relegation battle man.

[healthyaddiction]

2 minutes ago, Leemond said:

Think there's a decent chance we end up in the relegation battle looking at our upcoming games 

We're on 42 points, 12 points clear of the relegation spots, and there 18 points in total left on the table. In what world could we possibly be relegated.

[Wallsendmag]

Just to put this season into perspective. In my 40 odd years of supporting NUFC I would say Steve Bruce is my most hated manager. Statistically Ardiles was probably the worst, amd we had the likes of Carver and Kinnear, but Bruce was different levels of shit and incompetence given what he had to spend (£20m on Wilson, £40m on Joelinton etc) as well as being thoroughly unlikeable.

 

He finished 12th in his final full season here which was met with disdain and negativity as it was a rubbish season saved by Joe Willock.

 

Fast forward to now, and a £720m investment in the squad later  we sit in 14th position yet certain people who weren't happy back then are now seemingly quite satisfied.

 

Now just to set the record straight. Steve Bruce isn't anywhere near the person or the manager that Eddie Howe is. Howe is a genuinely good person and a good, committed manager. Bruce is neither of those.

 

What it does highlight is how poor a job Howe is currently doing. People wanting to criticise what we are currently watching, and have been all season, are perfectly entitled to do so. 

 

He's quickly running out of time (and ideas). One thing I will say about him is that in his recent post match interviews he's had the look of a man who knows this.

[bobbydazzla]

3 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

We're on 42 points, 12 points clear of the relegation spots, and there 18 points in total left on the table. In what world could we possibly be relegated.

If every team in the league wins every one of their remaining games, apart from us ? 

[KingArthur]

Howe has done a great job, but he has hit the ceiling. We cannot play passing game, we cannot play through the lines (always to the wings) and our best moments come from pressing very high with great intensity, and our squad doesnt allow that with European schedule. 

[TRon]

22 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

From our resident Bournemouth fan:
 

 

He's very meticulous in his approach to tactics which led to us playing some absolutely stunning beautiful football at times, but in his latter days he did show a bit of an unwillingness to change style and personel which held us a back a bit. He takes his time with new signings so I wouldn't necessarily expect to see any January transfers walk straight into the team. He usually took a good 6 months at least to bed a player into the setup before he trusted them in the starting 11.

 

One thing I'm really interested in is how he deals with your board. At Bournemouth he was known for being a control freak and pretty much directly oversaw all aspects of the club (think SAF at man u or Wenger at Arsenal), and one of the rumoured reasons why he left when we went down was that our board tried to change some of that and he basically walked. I'm not sure how this will translate to your current circumstance and how much Eddie has chnaged in this regard over his long break from football, as his obsessiveness and full effort definitely contributed to his downfall at the end of his time with us.

 

 

Sounds familiar. 

[The Prophet]

24 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

From our resident Bournemouth fan:
 

 

He's very meticulous in his approach to tactics which led to us playing some absolutely stunning beautiful football at times, but in his latter days he did show a bit of an unwillingness to change style and personel which held us a back a bit. He takes his time with new signings so I wouldn't necessarily expect to see any January transfers walk straight into the team. He usually took a good 6 months at least to bed a player into the setup before he trusted them in the starting 11.

 

One thing I'm really interested in is how he deals with your board. At Bournemouth he was known for being a control freak and pretty much directly oversaw all aspects of the club (think SAF at man u or Wenger at Arsenal), and one of the rumoured reasons why he left when we went down was that our board tried to change some of that and he basically walked. I'm not sure how this will translate to your current circumstance and how much Eddie has chnaged in this regard over his long break from football, as his obsessiveness and full effort definitely contributed to his downfall at the end of his time with us.