Eddie Howe

[PauloGeordio]

“It is definitely an opportunity for us. The next game is an opportunity to prove ourselves, and we owe it to everybody at the club to try and get a result, like we did at Chelsea. 

"When you have been in a difficult run, it can feel like you've been in it a long period of time, particularly with an international break. I was pleased going into Palace, and we didn't perform. 

"I was pleased going into Bournemouth and we didn't perform. I have been pleased this week, and hopefully we will see the fruits of our labour. I see a group that is switched on and a group that is hurting because of the results this season."

 

Incoming loss then  Actions speak louder than words. A win please 

[Myleftboot]

3 hours ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Ginola would rather have had a tab than do 5 laps of the pitch.

I remember seeing him at Paris airport about 20 years ago at the counter buying a sleeve.

[LFEE]

2 hours ago, huss9 said:

let Nick play a couple games at centre forward ffs man.

stick Osula wide.

gotta use the carrot as much as the stick, Eddie.

Osula is 2 in 2 at CF now fully fit from a bad ankle injury.

[El Prontonise]

2 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Osula is 2 in 2 at CF now fully fit from a bad ankle injury.

 

There's a desperation to play him which I can't fathom why (that's Woltemade).

[Mole]

I imagine it's because the games don't mean anything really and not playing him just hurts you in two ways. Firstly, if you do plan to sell him then it will hurt any potential price you can command and secondly if you want to rehab his status here long term it probably doesn't help that either.

 

This may seem harsh, but I don't think Osula is either going to be the long term answer even if he manages to score a few goals. Woltemade might be, but you'll never know that if he's not playing.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

10 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

There's a desperation to play him which I can't fathom why (that's Woltemade).

Because he’s an exciting and talented player? I’d play them both FWIW. 

[El Prontonise]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Because he’s an exciting and talented player? I’d play them both FWIW. 

 

I don't see that in Woltemade at all.

[Magpie Mover]

6 hours ago, Robster said:

I thought that it had been well established that we didn't have the appropriate team in place last summer to do things properly but now we have, this summer should hopefully be better ?

If Eddie is still deciding who we buy we are going to get more of the same. Athletes, runners, workers but forget flair or technique. 

[Ben]

2 minutes ago, Magpie Mover said:

If Eddie is still deciding who we buy we are going to get more of the same. Athletes, runners, workers but forget flair or technique. 

 

Aye true, Bruno and Isak should have went to Tony Pulis at Stoke.

[Mikky]

2 hours ago, PauloGeordio said:

“It is definitely an opportunity for us. The next game is an opportunity to prove ourselves, and we owe it to everybody at the club to try and get a result, like we did at Chelsea. 

"When you have been in a difficult run, it can feel like you've been in it a long period of time, particularly with an international break. I was pleased going into Palace, and we didn't perform. 

"I was pleased going into Bournemouth and we didn't perform. I have been pleased this week, and hopefully we will see the fruits of our labour. I see a group that is switched on and a group that is hurting because of the results this season."

 

Incoming loss then  Actions speak louder than words. A win please 

What was he pleased with?

 

Attitude?

Work rate?

ability?

defending?

attacking?

tactics?

 

Just shut up Eddie - if you are pleased and your team performs like that then it looks bad on your ability to coach because we’ve looked shite in both matches 

[Dr.Spaceman]

5 minutes ago, Magpie Mover said:

If Eddie is still deciding who we buy we are going to get more of the same. Athletes, runners, workers but forget flair or technique. 

 

But its not just on him, it never has been and never will be solely on the manager, it's not 1995.

[Kilcline]

5 hours ago, Mikky said:

But that’s the whole thing with Big Nick - he’s not going to do what Isak did - he’s a different type of 9 meaning you have to adopt your philosophy accordingly - surely your scouting and analysis done before buying him told you this - I bet they didn’t do either 

 

That’s why we’ve struggled as an attacking unit because teams now know they just need to block the wide areas and we have nothing 

There's been a lot of "Woltemade isn't as good as Isak so write him off" lines of patter and it's fucking lifting.

 

No, he isn't, he's a different player entirely, and he's certainly not the 5th best centre forward in the world, so we've got to adapt to what we've got.

 

Secondly, if we're waiting for someone with Isak potential to come along and play upfront for us, we might aswell sack it off now or accept we're going to spend a lot of money waiting for something to stick. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

9 minutes ago, Mikky said:

What was he pleased with?

 

Attitude?

Work rate?

ability?

defending?

attacking?

tactics?

 

Just shut up Eddie - if you are pleased and your team performs like that then it looks bad on your ability to coach because we’ve looked shite in both matches 

I mean, he specifically said they were good in training but didn’t perform in the matches. That was the whole point. 

[Mikky]

6 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I mean, he specifically said they were good in training but didn’t perform in the matches. That was the whole point. 

The whole objective is to then translate that onto to the pitch then? Tells me the standard of coaching isn’t up to scratch then - surely with greater time to train you should be seeing at least 1 or 2 positives in our play? I’ve seen zero

[JoeyBartoon]

12 minutes ago, Kilcline said:

There's been a lot of "Woltemade isn't as good as Isak so write him off" lines of patter and it's fucking lifting.

 

No, he isn't, he's a different player entirely, and he's certainly not the 5th best centre forward in the world, so we've got to adapt to what we've got.

 

Secondly, if we're waiting for someone with Isak potential to come along and play upfront for us, we might aswell sack it off now or accept we're going to spend a lot of money waiting for something to stick. 

100%. I’m completely convinced Woltemade has potential to be a top player. Before the Barca game, I was in the Gallowgate watching the warm-ups, and his finishing really stood out. He was putting everything away with ease while others were missing chances or having shots saved.

 

I agree he still needs to adapt physically to the league, but in terms of pure finishing ability, I honestly think he’s the best at the club. That’s why it’s frustrating that Howe hasn’t made more of an effort to build around him.

 

 

Edited April 24 by JoeyBartoon

[DC Magpie]

4 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

So you've gone from all of those matches listed, to starts since Chelsea, to minutes since Chelsea and it all amounts to one extra match. I rest my case about it being overstated.

Is it fair to point out that golden boy Anthony Gordon has exactly three non-PK league goals this entire season for fuck sake? He must be murder on the practice pitch though. Wooooo!!!!  I’m just a dumb yokel but isn’t the point of this game to score goals in actual matches? 
 

I think blaming Nick or Wissa is missing the point. Fact is, it doesn’t much matter who’s up top does it? It’s because our system sucks and is utterly predictable and easily defended. And Howe has no answers. And the team knows it, I suspect. 
 

 

[Mikky]

17 minutes ago, Kilcline said:

There's been a lot of "Woltemade isn't as good as Isak so write him off" lines of patter and it's fucking lifting.

 

No, he isn't, he's a different player entirely, and he's certainly not the 5th best centre forward in the world, so we've got to adapt to what we've got.

 

Secondly, if we're waiting for someone with Isak potential to come along and play upfront for us, we might aswell sack it off now or accept we're going to spend a lot of money waiting for something to stick. 

Wissa aside, the biggest fuck up we made was Elanga - had we bought in a left footed technical winger like we should have bloody done, I’m convinced Big Nick would have flourished and we could have adapted to his game 

[Ben]

2 minutes ago, Mikky said:

Wissa aside, the biggest fuck up we made was Elanga - had we bought in a left footed technical winger like we should have bloody done, I’m convinced Big Nick would have flourished and we could have adapted to his game 

 

Elanga looked ready made for us last season most people were chuffed when we signed him

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Ben said:

 

Elanga looked ready made for us last season most people were chuffed when we signed him

Disagree with that, he was made for a counter attacking side.

[Geordie Ahmed]

1 minute ago, Ben said:

 

Elanga looked ready made for us last season most people were chuffed when we signed him

 

I reckon there is a good chance most of the people laying into the Elanga signing were saying positive things about the signing at the time

[Erikse]

Due to Forest winning, we are now 3 points above 16th, which means that our season is now much worse than it was before this game, despite us not even playing today.

 

That's basically the "6 points from Europe" logic.

 

 

Edited April 24 by Erikse

[healthyaddiction]

4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

Due to Forest winning, we are now 3 points above 16th, which means that our season is now much worse than it was before this game, despite us not even playing today.

 

That's basically the "6 points from Europe" logic.

 

 

 

You wot?

[nufc123]

41 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

 

I reckon there is a good chance most of the people laying into the Elanga signing were saying positive things about the signing at the time

Plenty were critical of his ball control, but thought he would be decent (that was before the Isak saga started).

[TRon]

54 minutes ago, JoeyBartoon said:

100%. I’m completely convinced Woltemade has potential to be a top player. Before the Barca game, I was in the Gallowgate watching the warm-ups, and his finishing really stood out. He was putting everything away with ease while others were missing chances or having shots saved.

 

I agree he still needs to adapt physically to the league, but in terms of pure finishing ability, I honestly think he’s the best at the club. That’s why it’s frustrating that Howe hasn’t made more of an effort to build around him.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not frustrated, if he's not Howe's type of player, he isn't going to use him. I don't see Howe changing his football philosophy any time soon, I think he'd rather just buy someone who fits it. 

 

Personally I have doubts if Woltemade is even built for the PL, but he definitely needs to be playing in a different system. I do think he is quality, but maybe not built for English football. 

[Leemond]

He's going to get us a 16th or 17th finish this season.