Eddie Howe

[duo]

3 hours ago, The Prophet said:

Overall, it's the right call.

 

Time will tell on that one 

 

Bit more from Ornstein..

 

 

 

 

Edited May 3 by duo

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, duo said:

Time will tell on that one 

 

Don't think you can ever know given you can't run the scenario where he leaves and an unknown person comes in. 

 

Time will tell if he goes onto more success, of course. 

[Drewboy74]

14 minutes ago, duo said:

 

Time will tell on that one 

 

Bit more from Ornstein..

 

 

 

 

 

Head looks bigger than his body....Steve Madden style

[Mountain]

39 minutes ago, duo said:

 

Time will tell on that one 

 

Bit more from Ornstein..

 

 

 

 

 

 

His face wart wasn't always this big surely?

 

I couldn't listen to anything he said, I just looked at that mole thing with precision focus the entire time.

 

 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, Mountain said:

 

His face wart wasn't always this big surely?

 

I couldn't listen to anything he said, I just looked at that mole thing with precision focus the entire time.

 

 

[huss9]

10 hours ago, Weezertron said:

Really happy for him with the result. However, I don’t love the route he has gone down in the pressers about going back to players he trusts. Firstly I don’t get it, cause half those players have shit the bed plenty of times in past games. And it must make the wider squad feel awful. 
 

 

really pissed me off in that presser.

[Shadow Puppets]

Eddie is now joint 1st in PL wins as NUFC manager…

 

1. Keegan - 83 wins (achieved in 162 games)

2. Howe - 83 wins (achieved in 176 games)

3. Robson - 83 wins (achieved in 188 games)

 

He’s absolutely going to go down as the best and most successful manager in NUFC history, statistically. He has also won us a cup and got to two Champions Leagues in 4 years.

 

So aye, of course he deserves a chance to right the wrongs of this season… something I’m 99.9% positive he will do. When it’s all laid out, it’s pretty ridiculous that the fanbase have managed to work themselves up into so much of a frenzy these last few weeks, in my opinion, when the facts are there for all to see.

 

Give statistically our most successful manager (and many people’s favourite ever) more time, and he will deliver. Don’t let one bad season undo an amazing trajectory and legacy.

[Zero]

You can say Eddie deserves the chance but you really can’t ignore the huge risk behind this decision. 
 

I mean, no one wants Eddie / the club to fail. None. We all hope it works. We just can’t ignore what has happened this season and say this is a decision without risk.

 

 

Edited May 4 by Zero

[Shadow Puppets]

1 minute ago, Zero said:

You can say Eddie deserves the chance but you really can’t ignore the huge risk behind this decision. 
 

I mean, no one wants Eddie / the club to fail. None. We all hope it works. We just can’t ignore what has happened this season and say this is a decision with risk.

“Huge risk” seems a bit dramatic like…

 

I could quite easily turn around and argue that’s it a much much bigger risk to let him go, considering his obvious ability, success rate, demeanour, representation of the club, respect within the squad, lack of obviously better replacements etc etc.

[McDog]

6 minutes ago, Zero said:

You can say Eddie deserves the chance but you really can’t ignore the huge risk behind this decision. 

I mean, no one wants Eddie / the club to fail. None. We all hope it works. We just can’t ignore what has happened this season and say this is a decision with risk.

 

Is the decision to sack him risk free? Is it less of a risk or more of a risk?  Seems Bruno G is quite fond of the gaffer. Not sure how the rest of the squad feels but to me it's an even bigger risk than giving him a chance to right the ship.

 

 

edit: Simultaneous post with Shadow.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 4 by McDog

[OverThere]

Probably true to say that replacement is as big of a risk as him staying.

 

I just hope we try and look at a different way of if playing. Yesterday we went back to conceding possession and won, which has been our base formula for the level of success we have had ...but it's not the correct way to reach the very top.

[TRC]

Pretty sure we will fire him in the October international break. Would love to be wrong.

[r0cafella]

38 minutes ago, TRC said:

Pretty sure we will fire him in the October international break. Would love to be wrong.

This is pretty close to worst case scenario. 

[Whitley mag]

His press comments about going with experience and players he trusts won’t have been well received by Hall, Barnes and the new signings.

 

I mean Barnes absolutely should be used as an impact sub, if he’s finally come to that conclusion, hallelujah.

 

I’ve accepted he’s probably here next season and will back the club regardless, I’ve done it with worse managers for 40 years.

 

But it’s not risk free and I’d argue based on current results and performance, no lesser risk than going the new manager route. It’s a cheaper and less upheaval route undoubtedly, but when it’s already been reported that we’re scouting players for a Howe team, it might not look such a risk free decision if we’re rooted in the bottom 3 late September.

Hope it’s the right decision but have big reservations, I maintain he’s run his course here, the football is shit and we treat the ball like a hot potato every week.

Big summer ahead and the profile of player recruited will tell us everything before a ball has been kicked. If we don’t get a technical midfielder and a wide forward who can beat his man with a trick, it’s nailed on more of the same.

[TheBrownBottle]

36 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

This is pretty close to worst case scenario. 

Also seems to be the scenario which hasn’t been well contemplated.  If the trend continues as it has, then - after spending the summer budget - he’ll be out before Xmas.  That ‘credit in the bank’ has disappeared, and he’s back to having to prove himself.

 

What should be hoped is that this time he has actually learned some lessons.  

 

There is no justification for watching the turgid shite we’ve witnessed this season.  It would be great if he can get everything back on track.  It probably helps that some of the pressure is lifted - it’s pretty obvious at this point that he isn’t ‘elite’, so expectations re the club can be corrected.  PIF and that daft Canadian knacker aren’t serious, so they can happily be tuned-out going forwards.  

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Also seems to be the scenario which hasn’t been well contemplated.  If the trend continues as it has, then - after spending the summer budget - he’ll be out before Xmas.  That ‘credit in the bank’ has disappeared, and he’s back to having to prove himself.

 

What should be hoped is that this time he has actually learned some lessons.  

 

There is no justification for watching the turgid shite we’ve witnessed this season.  It would be great if he can get everything back on track.  It probably helps that some of the pressure is lifted - it’s pretty obvious at this point that he isn’t ‘elite’, so expectations re the club can be corrected.  PIF and that daft Canadian knacker aren’t serious, so they can happily be tuned-out going forwards.  

Yeah this is my concern, the fact we spend more and back what we have and it goings tits up. 

 

I'm in the odd position whereby i understand the logical and reasoning for backing him further but also can't help but think it's a gamble. 

 

IF we are changing tact recruitment wise I find it a very puzzling decision, can't help but think things could snowball against us extremely quickly . 

 

Really hope he can turn it around though, bevause the other option is unthinkable...

[ElectricWizard]

In some ways Howe is a victim of his teams success. He raised the bar and set a new benchmark. Once a lot fans expectations have risen anything below that is a disappointment. Its been a poor season for you and I imagine Howe is just as frustraited as anyone. He won your first domestic trophy in what was it? 70 years? I think he should get another crack at it.

[TheBrownBottle]

8 minutes ago, ElectricWizard said:

In some ways Howe is a victim of his teams success. He raised the bar and set a new benchmark. Once a lot fans expectations have risen anything below that is a disappointment. Its been a poor season for you and I imagine Howe is just as frustraited as anyone. He won your first domestic trophy in what was it? 70 years? I think he should get another crack at it.

If he’d managed it on a shoestring, I’d be in complete agreement.  But he didn’t - this wasn’t a miraculous climb up the table.  We’ve spent a crazy amount of money in a short period of time.  Par in an ordinary season (assuming that the Sky Six get their shit together) would be about 7th.  I’d say the absolute minimum would be a top half finish.
 

Howe isn’t being criticised for not achieving what he has previously - he’s being criticised for overseeing a league season on a par with some of our worst since the PL breakaway, despite spending a quarter of a billion last summer to try and improve the squad. 

[cubaricho]

16 hours ago, Weezertron said:

However, I don’t love the route he has gone down in the pressers about going back to players he trusts.

The ones that just got him his first win in (can’t be bothered to look it up)?

 

The lineup people are so fucking precious right now. The people who think they know better than our manager.  

 

Just enjoy a few points y'all. 

[Collage]

6 hours ago, Zero said:

You can say Eddie deserves the chance but you really can’t ignore the huge risk behind this decision. 
 

I mean, no one wants Eddie / the club to fail. None. We all hope it works. We just can’t ignore what has happened this season and say this is a decision without risk.

 

 

 

No decision is without risk, but it would be a bigger risk to sack him and get someone new in as it’s hard to see an obvious replacement in the manager pool.

[cubaricho]

5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

If he’d managed it on a shoestring, I’d be in complete agreement.  But he didn’t - this wasn’t a miraculous climb up the table.  We’ve spent a crazy amount of money in a short period of time.  Par in an ordinary season (assuming that the Sky Six get their shit together) would be about 7th.  I’d say the absolute minimum would be a top half finish.
 

Howe isn’t being criticised for not achieving what he has previously - he’s being criticised for overseeing a league season on a par with some of our worst since the PL breakaway, despite spending a quarter of a billion last summer to try and improve the squad. 

Not our money man. What are you concerned about?

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, cubaricho said:

Not our money man. 

I know where you’re coming from, but it’s still the name of my city on the name of the club.  And if isn’t the supporters’ money that matters, might be worth letting the club know that, as they push up ticket prices again in the poorest region of the mainland UK. 

[r0cafella]

7 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I know where you’re coming from, but it’s still the name of my city on the name of the club.  And if isn’t the supporters’ money that matters, might be worth letting the club know that, as they push up ticket prices again in the poorest region of the mainland UK. 

Your bang on, the money spent is my Benchmark for him and how I judge the progress. As of now our par is 7/8 and this is where I anticipate us to end up at this stage, I don't imagine this expectation I have will change next season either. 

[Curva Sud Milano]

Keeping Howe was a bizarre and very risky decision, confirming my feelings... the biggest problem is the club's management, more than Howe and some players who haven't performed well this season.

Next season will be the first in which Howe doesn't have the unconditional support of the entire fanbase and the added pressure on him and the risk to make mistakes from the first few games could be a significant handicap.

Then there are issues surrounding some players (Hall and Wolte above all). The only way out would be, for the German, to have a great World Cup so you can sell him without losing a ton of money... unlike some of last summer's hopeless signings (Elanga, Wissa), Wolte could redeem himself (because it certainly has some qualities) but I think Howe's confirmation would be the final blow for his adventure at NUFC.

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

Keeping Howe was a bizarre and very risky decision, confirming my feelings... the biggest problem is the club's management, more than Howe and some players who haven't performed well this season.

Next season will be the first in which Howe doesn't have the unconditional support of the entire fanbase and the added pressure on him and the risk to make mistakes from the first few games could be a significant handicap.

Then there are issues surrounding some players (Hall and Wolte above all). The only way out would be, for the German, to have a great World Cup so you can sell him without losing a ton of money... unlike some of last summer's hopeless signings (Elanga, Wissa), Wolte could redeem himself (because it certainly has some qualities) but I think Howe's confirmation would be the final blow for his adventure at NUFC.

I wouldn't call it Bizarre personally, to me the decision to keep him is the payment coming due, he's done a lot for us and our owners are obviously aware of that hence wanting to be as patient as possible. 

 

The Woltemade thing makes no sense to be as seems to be a much bigger issue than it actually is. I like the lad and think he's a talent but him being moved on isn't going to make or break anything and thus I struggle to care too much about his future with us :lol: