Eddie Howe

[joeyt]

Just now, Holmesy said:

Eddie didn’t accommodate him in any way that was going to get the best out of him. He asked him to play an unfamiliar role in a system that doesn’t suit him.  Because he only knows one way to play. 

 

What role do you want him to play?

 

He was playing in his most favoured position, I've no idea how you can Eddie didn't accomodate him in any way

[Shadow Puppets]

4 minutes ago, Zero said:

Man, take a break , read below, and think again.

 

Had we continue with that 4231, we were solid. Really solid. Bruno at 6 with Tonali, we never looked like having the same problem before. The worst case was just we are unable to score and end up 0-0, but we might score 1 and got all the three points. In addition we earned experience and confidence that this new setup would work next match.
 

Instead we went back to that Plan A 433. Yea we scored again. Fine. Now tell me, base on this seasons results, the chance of holding this 1-0 result is? And what’s the message sent out by going back to this 433? Is that fucking 1 goal really worth it?
 

27 points lost from leading. Must be most in EPL. I don’t wanna waste time to check it out. Thats fucking ridiculous. 
 

we looked better in attacking and? Did we get the three points? Are we building up something to turn the tide?

 

Think again man.

I understand where you’re coming from with a massive BUT…

 

…we created next to nothing in that 4-2-3-1 (which actually looked more like a 4-4-2 to me). All the talk on here at half time was how toothless we were. You know fine well how livid people would have been if it ended 0-0.

 

He made the changes necessary to see us create another few clear cut chances. We scored one of them. So it was the right decision.

 

Now I can understand why you might then say he should’ve moved back to it after we scored, but that’s all hindsight. We didn’t look like conceding until that one moment of quality from Anderson.

 

 

Edited May 10 by Shadow Puppets

[LFEE]

4 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

No the old could have, should have excuses. When it's being said over and over again it loses all meaning.

Not excuses. Just what we’ve witnessed.

[Mills and Boon]

1 minute ago, Holmesy said:

Eddie didn’t accommodate him in any way that was going to get the best out of him. He asked him to play an unfamiliar role in a system that doesn’t suit him.  Because he only knows one way to play. 

 

WTF? What role does Woltemade know how to play and suits him?

 

How can we play a different system today and only know how to play one way? That makes no sense 

[Jackie Broon]

22 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Won’t let it go though…

 

Aye, and what was it he said about Isak after he went on strike before the Celtic friendly "It was my decision. I decided to send him home due to all the speculation around him. The last thing he wanted was to be sat in the stands watching. That wasn’t fair to him. But I am confident he will be a Newcastle United player come the end of this window.”

 

 

[Holmesy]

2 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

 

If he didn't change it and it petered out to a 0-0 you'd have been fucking fuming, don't kid yourself

There are more positives to take from keeping a clean sheet and not conceding late (again) than scoring and failing to hold onto a lead (again). Surely that’s obvious? 

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, LFEE said:

Not excuses. Just what we’ve witnessed.

 

Another shite listless display after loads of other shit listless displays this season is what we've witnessed and no amount of could haves or should haves will sugarcoat that.

[LFEE]

Just now, Jackie Broon said:

 

Aye, and what was it he said about Isak after he went on strike before the Celtic friendly "It was my decision. I decided to send him home due to all the speculation around him. The last thing he wanted was to be sat in the stands watching. That wasn’t fair to him. But I am confident he will be a Newcastle United player come the end of this window.”

 

 

And your point is?

[SUPERTOON]

I don’t envy Wilson this summer btw.

[LFEE]

Just now, Wallsendmag said:

 

Another shite listless display after loads of other shit listless displays this season is what we've witnessed and no amount of could haves or should haves will sugarcoat that.

We weren’t shite or listless today.

[Keegans Export]

4 minutes ago, Pilko said:

The most worrying thing for me is since we went to 1 game a week (with a 3 week break thrown in) we've looked about the same. He's spent all season saying we don't get any proper training time, we now have it and he's fixed or improved nothing.

This is bugging me too.

 

It's one of the reasons I voted "Yes" in the poll because I was sure we would see an uptick in performances once we had week-long gaps between the fixtures. Unfortunately, we've had five of the seven, got four points and the improvement has been negligible at best. 

[Mills and Boon]

Just now, Holmesy said:

There are more positives to take from keeping a clean sheet and not conceding late (again) than scoring and failing to hold onto a lead (again). Surely that’s obvious? 

 

Nah. I can see the whinges from the usual hindsight geniuses in here now.

 

"Why didn't he change it? They were there for the taking!"

 

That's the thing with the Howe Outers, anything and everything that doesn't work out is Howe's fault.

 

Including playing Woltemade in the 10 position in behind Osula, despite people whinging for exactly that to happen for weeks 

[Wallsendmag]

2 minutes ago, LFEE said:

We weren’t shite or listless today.

 

Agree to disagree.

[Pilko]

Just now, Mills and Boon said:

 

Nah. I can see the whinges from the usual hindsight geniuses in here now.

 

"Why didn't he change it? They were there for the taking!"

 

That's the thing with the Howe Outers, anything and everything that doesn't work out is Howe's fault.

 

Including playing Woltemade in the 10 position in behind Osula, despite people whinging for exactly that to happen for weeks 

 

And the thing with the Howe Inners is, anything and everything that doesn't work out is anyone but Howe's fault.

[BennyBlanco]

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I don’t envy Wilson this summer btw.

 

100% this. I’m not expecting miracles but we need an injection of talent, impetuous and skill in this squad - everything has gone stale.

[Holmesy]

6 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

What role do you want him to play?

 

He was playing in his most favoured position, I've no idea how you can Eddie didn't accomodate him in any way

I’d quite like him to play as a striker seeing as he’s a striker. Think that’s fairly reasonable.

 

 

[Mills and Boon]

Just now, Pilko said:

 

And the thing with the Howe Inners is, anything and everything that doesn't work out is anyone but Howe's fault.

 

Pure bollocks. I've said today that playing Hall out of position was a mistake, so was signing Woltemade. Talk shite elsewhere 

[Mountain]

40 minutes ago, UncleBingo said:

I haven't moved any goalposts, you're trying to justify personal abuse of our most successful manager in modern times. That makes you fickle and entitled in my eyes, and you're not going to change my mind.

I notice you joined just after the take-over, who did you support before that?

 

Drum up whatever snide angle you like, we play dull football and have done for a long time.

[Mole]

8 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

 

WTF? What role does Woltemade know how to play and suits him?

 

How can we play a different system today and only know how to play one way? That makes no sense 

The system has nothing to do with playing "differently" You can play multiple different formations and still play the same way.

 

It's why I have never really had an issue with what formation he does or doesn't play because it doesn't really matter that much.

 

It's the willingness to adapt outside of a set structure and find solutions outside of that. The way we play is very limited and never really changes and he hasn't resorted to looking outside of that.

 

Which is fine when it works, obviously he found success prior to this season but when it doesn't you get what you see. He could play 5 different formations but it wouldn't change anything if the general play style and how we approach games remains the same.

 

 

Edited May 10 by Mole

[Maggies]

32 minutes ago, TK-421 said:

Howes comments re: Hall playing RB instead if Trippier....
 

"Obviously, Kieran's future has been revealed, so I'm focusing on the players that I know are going to be here next year."

 

 

 

Come on Howe… stop with the gaslighting. Hall started at rb so you could keep Burn in the team.

 

And… if Murphy starting today is an indication that he still starts next season then we’re screwed.

 

Far too much loyalty to think Howe can turn this around. Regardless of last summer he had January to bring new faces in and didn’t.

 

If he does stay, the amount of pressure on the first 5 games of next season will be immense.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 10 by Maggies

[Jackie Broon]

Just now, LFEE said:

And your point is?

 

That Eddie has a demonstrable history of being economical with the truth and Gordon has probably downed tools.

[Mills and Boon]

Just now, Holmesy said:

I’d quite like him to play as a striker seeing as he’s a striker. Think that’s fairly reasonable.

 

 

 

He's played there most of the season. He was rightly dropped for a long run of poor performances

[Dokko]

27 minutes ago, Ikon said:

You can blame the setup (above Howe) to a degree. Elanga however was high up on his list even if not the #1 target maybe, there's no denying that. Even then, buying him because we couldn't get Mbeumo or whoever for example is like going into a Mercedes Benz store and just because you couldn't buy your main target you go out with a sink instead of looking elsewhere. I'm dead certain that Nickson would have liked us to sign other players than Elanga and that he had other better options. 

 

Nixon wanted Rayan at half the price. Howe wanted proven PL quality. Howe won. 

 

If he stays, he cannot be allowed to make transfer decisions. 

[Gawalls]

7 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I understand where you’re coming from with a massive BUT…

 

…we created next to nothing in that 4-2-3-1 (which actually looked more like a 4-4-2 to me). All the talk on here at half time was how toothless we were. You know fine well how livid people would have been if it ended 0-0.

 

He made the changes necessary to see us create another few clear cut chances. We scored one of them. So it was the right decision.

 

Now I can understand why you might then say he should’ve moved back to it after we scored, but that’s all hindsight. We didn’t look like conceding until that one moment of quality from Anderson.

 

 

 

I personally would have been a lot less livid with 0 - 0 as we wouldn't have leaked that inevitable goal and throwing the lead away, doing the same old thing and we would have kept a clean sheet which would also have been a step forward.

[joeyt]

Just now, Holmesy said:

I’d quite like him to play as a striker seeing as he’s a striker. Think that’s fairly reasonable.

 

 

 

But we've seen he's pretty usless as a striker as he can't run or hold the ball up

 

I think most people agree he isn't a striker