TRon Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Just now, UncleBingo said: That said, some of the defending on their goals was absolutely scandalous and put of his control. He's been badly let down by certain players he has put a lot of faith in. Trippier for example needs to be dropped until he sorts himself out. Agree that Trippier should have been rested after a bad run of form, but again I can't blame the player for wanting to play. The manager has to make hard decisions sometimes. I still think Howe is a great manager fwiw, just think a horses for courses policy is sometimes required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 He absolutely deserves the chance to turn this around and get the club back on track but I'm not totally sure he's going to get that time. It's the nature of the performances that's the most worrying thing for me. We look a shadow of the side that people genuinely feared last season, we're lush to play against and have been for some time. The intensity has (understandably) vanished, the edge we had, the momentum we generated have disappeared. We look a shambles at the back, CM get played through with simple passes and we can't seem to convert any chances even if we are on top in games. The whole thing just looks a big fucking mess every time we play atm. I know there's a lot of context and we've had some horrendous luck with injuries but that doesn't mask how bad it's been, you can only trot that out so often and for so long. I hope he stays but he needs some fucking performances, not necessarily results, pdq. Doing the same thing each week isn't fucking working, not addressing that is his biggest issue, it's not the fact we're getting dicked, it's how badly we're looking in the process Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Play Livro and Krapth at full back for some of the time Trips and Burn are shot at present. Eddie places way too much faith on past not current form Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Donut said: He now faces the same issue as Ten Hag does at Man U (Please note i rate Eddie MUCH higher than Ten Hag) in that his players aren't capable of playing his kind of football and just like Ten Hag he hasn't really come up with a plan B yet. Though in our case it's more to do with fitness, stamina and all the injuries while at Man U they just have a rubbish squad. Ten Hag doesn’t have a plan A, to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, et tu brute said: Rightly or wrongly I can honestly see PIF looking to pull the plug if this form continues through January. The Saudis are ruthless businessmen and the fact that we could well miss out on European football, which will impact on FFP, could well see them forcing a change. You have to remember Howe was not their first choice either. Howe was PIF’s choice. Emery was Staveley’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) I hope Howe is given time but this reminds me a bit of Mark Hughes situation at City. He was sacked in December too after only 2 wins in 11 .We dont have a Mancini lined up but we do need to spend in January and address the glaring issues in the squad Edited December 26, 2023 by johnny36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Upthemags said: Barring some shocking run of form where we start flirting with a bottom-5 finish, I don't see the logic in booting Howe mid-season. Like it or not, it's clear Eddie has limitations, but his banked-up credit has at least earned him a tryout this latter half of the season to show why he's the man to drive the Ferrari, so to speak. It would seem very harsh not to give Eddie a chance to right the ship and show what he's learned after the break. I do understand the frustration from fans, though. No one is advocating his sacking to be fair. Not even close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 If Howe was sacked, how much would it cost to get Xabi Alonso out of Leverkusen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Absolutely love Eddie in terms of what he stands for, his professionalism and how he has turned us around, but I think we’ve relied too much on plan A, which is too bully teams with our intensity and physicality. After plan A goes out the window, due to injuries and fatigue, I don’t think we have much else (that’s not to say lots of managers aren’t like this). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) Our summer transfer window turning out to be a shit show has really bit us on the arse too. £100m wasted on a banned addict, a crock and a kid that they don’t trust to play even when we are on our last legs with no options. Thank god for Livramento, the only saving grace of the summer. Hopefully we have much better luck in January. Edited December 26, 2023 by reefatoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 The World Cup did us a big favour last year IMO, we headed into it looking very tired. Even though we didn’t have anywhere near the injuries we’ve had this season it gave Howe the time to regroup and gave most of the squad a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, reefatoon said: Our summer transfer window turning out to be a shit show has really bit us on the arse too. £100m wasted on a banned addict, a crock and a kid that they don’t trust to play even when we are on our last legs with no options. Thank god for Liveamento, the only saving grace of the summer. Hopefully we have much better luck in January. Tonali and Barnes: completely disasterous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Just now, OverThere said: Tonali and Barnes: completely disasterous Bad luck though? No way to know about Tonali What was Barnes injury record like prior to Newcastle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Just now, mouldy_uk said: Bad luck though? No way to know about Tonali What was Barnes injury record like prior to Newcastle? Not sure about his record. Seems a long time for turf toe to heal!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Where were we after our Boxing Day game last year? 2nd in the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Upthemags said: This is disingenuous - Howe spent 70 million pound on fullbacks precisely to lighten the load on our aging ones. We don't get to then throw up our hands and say there's no options to rotate I don’t think those were his choices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Howe was PIF’s choice. Emery was Staveley’s. Possibly, I'm not sure I believe that mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Upthemags said: I can restate it if you like - it's disingenuous to suggest there are no rotational options, when we have a wunderkind sitting on the bench for most all the game, and two knackered ones on the pitch who look world's away from being able to compete. Do you genuinely believe that would make a difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Jesus, just seen our next 4 fixtures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, et tu brute said: Possibly, I'm not sure I believe that mind Tbf I’m only going on what Staveley said. Could be that she’s making her client’s judgement sound better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, midds said: He absolutely deserves the chance to turn this around and get the club back on track but I'm not totally sure he's going to get that time. It's the nature of the performances that's the most worrying thing for me. We look a shadow of the side that people genuinely feared last season, we're lush to play against and have been for some time. The intensity has (understandably) vanished, the edge we had, the momentum we generated have disappeared. We look a shambles at the back, CM get played through with simple passes and we can't seem to convert any chances even if we are on top in games. The whole thing just looks a big fucking mess every time we play atm. I know there's a lot of context and we've had some horrendous luck with injuries but that doesn't mask how bad it's been, you can only trot that out so often and for so long. I hope he stays but he needs some fucking performances, not necessarily results, pdq. Doing the same thing each week isn't fucking working, not addressing that is his biggest issue, it's not the fact we're getting dicked, it's how badly we're looking in the process This is absolutely where it's at for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: You looking to go on the list aye ? Ive warned you before about that Worf shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Now in the "top 4" with the bookies to get sacked. Ten Hag massive favourite, followed by good ol' Woy, Poch and then Howe. Surely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Just now, Donut said: Now in the "top 4" with the bookies to get sacked. Ten Hag massive favourite, followed by good ol' Woy, Poch and then Howe. Surely not. Bookies know fuck all, if he is sacked this season I’d lose interest in the club pretty swiftly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Elma said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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