Eddie Howe

[Hanshithispantz]

5 minutes ago, OverThere said:

Drop Burn play Livro FFS. Its nothing to do with goodwill it's about the obvious

We're trying to balance an injury hit squad with a style of play that demands intensity on and off the pitch, it's not going to be solved by dropping Dan Burn.

[UncleBingo]

2 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Find it really amusing the idea that he'll be under pressure from the ownership with what he has achieved so far, and the team sitting in 7th currently, despite the challenges this season. Unbelievable.

You'd like to think that the people running the club have more faith than some of our 'supporters'.

[Zero]

Considering it’s Luton Forest and Bournemouth, with two of them our home game, it’s fucking poor. No question for that.

[Kid Icarus]

31 minutes ago, Menace said:

The happy clappers will be along any minute now telling us Ashley owned us 2 years ago

It's more that the people who are like "why does this keep happening!?" while surrounded by Newcastle players who are lying around like a scene from the Battle of the Somme are either wilfully blind or completely mental at this point.

 

"But he keeps playing Dan Burn!"

 

 

Edited February 17 by Kid Icarus

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36 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Genuine question and I’m not saying he should be under pressure now, but how long until he genuinely is? Obvious injury’s aren’t helping but he also isn’t helping himself recently.

I think the clincher is whether we qualify for Europe. If we don't, as seems increasingly likely, all bets are off at that point. It's not about what we think, it's what Riyadh thinks. It's funny, during the match I got paranoid about that Mourinho interview that just got released in which he spent half of the 15 minutes largely on the subject of us and Robson.

 

Keeping playing Burn is now looking like a gaping wound of logic. It doesn't matter about Burn, Livramento is genuinely one of our best players, and could've threaded some sweet balls through to Barnes if they'd been allowed to share the same pitch.

 

This season has been murder. I don't want Howe out, all managers have their weirdnesses, and he deserves a better shot than what he's had. It'll be unfair if his time is brought to a close prematurely, but life isn't fair, so we're treading a very fine line right now. The board might be of the view that we can't afford to let momentum slip and risk repeating this season next time around.

[BonesJones]

7 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Find it really amusing the idea that he'll be under pressure from the ownership with what he has achieved so far, and the team sitting in 7th currently, despite the challenges this season. Unbelievable.

 

Agree. It's a bit of a miracle we are where we are, because we shouldn't be or wouldn't be under most managers imo. So every season he's performed a miracle.

 

The minute we reached the point the amount of injuries were just laughable, I gave the whole squad and Howe a pass for the season.

 

Were within touching distance of the likely goal for the season, so just stfu.

 

 

Edited February 17 by BonesJones

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6 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Find it really amusing the idea that he'll be under pressure from the ownership with what he has achieved so far, and the team sitting in 7th currently, despite the challenges this season. Unbelievable.

I get that, but what if we're sitting 10th at the end of the season? That's where things start getting twitchy.

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, UncleBingo said:

You'd like to think that the people running the club have more faith than some of our 'supporters'.

 

I'm pretty certain they'll be happy with the job he's doing.

 

Tell you what though, I'd give anything to see the club put under control of some of the folks on here. The disaster would be incredibly entertaining. 

[Yorkie]

15 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said:

The goodwill has almost gone.

 

Honestly, the guy is going off the rails with his decisions and loyalties. I know the injuries are a factor but only up to a point.

 

I'd be very disappointed if the higher-ups aren't at looking keeping a pulse on the managerial market. Because I'm not sure we get far beyond the summer with Howe.

 

That's a properly OTT reaction given the decisions you're referring to are in the context of having so few options. Does it literally just come down to the Burn thing or what? 

 

Absolute madness to be arriving at any fresh conclusions about how far he can or can't take us.

[Wolfcastle]

Should be under pressure for raising expectations to the point people are dying to moan about being 7th with our hands tied behind our back by regulations and injuries.

[Marquee Moon]

I think Tino should be starting, but it’s foolish to think that 1 change is gonna fix all that much.

 

Our midfield has been decimated all season, been playing our sub goalie for months, 2 senior strikers rotating injuries all year and never able to get fully fit. Pretty much every manager in the world would be struggling in this situation, Klopp certainly did last year.

[The Prophet]

32 minutes ago, Menace said:

The happy clappers will be along any minute now telling us Ashley owned us 2 years ago

 

They're almost as annoying and as polarised and is the lads that go on like the sky is falling in.

 

It's almost like the situation is somewhere in the middle.

[mouldy_uk]

It’s been a tough season but I still trust in Eddie.
 

We’ve been fucked over by injuries and crap like the Tonali situation. Anyone can see our squad isn’t geared up for a consistent top four finish every season, especially with a number of the other clubs getting their act together.

 

We’ve probably got a top 6 starting 11 (when all fit), but a mid table bench, so no wonder when injuries hit us we are going to struggle.

 

That’s not to say he hasn’t made some mistakes.

 

If he gets backed in the summer window and we start to get back to a reasonable number of injuries, then my level of scrutiny will probably be upped a notch or two. 

[The Prophet]

4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

That's a properly OTT reaction given the decisions you're referring to are in the context of having so few options. Does it literally just come down to the Burn thing or what? 

 

Absolute madness to be arriving at any fresh conclusions about how far he can or can't take us.

 

Look at the poster, he could barely keep his undies dry when we were challenging for fourth.

[Yorkie]

I do think the Burn thing gets blown out of proportion. The manager isn't an imbecile; he'll be aware of the player's weaknesses but feels there are other benefits to playing him. He's a leader and his height gives him a unique strength both when dealing with crosses, as well a carrying a goal threat for us when we've no strikers. There's also the effect his being there has on Trippier's role.

 

As others have said, Livramento coming in won't suddenly stop there from being caverns of space between our midfield and defence; it's not as simple as just playing a quicker LB.

[mouldy_uk]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

They're almost as annoying and as polarised and is the lads that go on like the sky is falling in.

 

It's almost like the situation is somewhere in the middle.

 

Balanced opinions on the Internet, it’ll never catch on

 

[Elliottman]

26 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said:

The goodwill has almost gone.

 

Honestly, the guy is going off the rails with his decisions and loyalties. I know the injuries are a factor but only up to a point.

 

I'd be very disappointed if the higher-ups aren't at looking keeping a pulse on the managerial market. Because I'm not sure we get far beyond the summer with Howe.

 

 

 

Jesus Christ. 

[Ronaldo]

5 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Look at the poster, he could barely keep his undies dry when we were challenging for fourth.

It’s a bit of an overreaction granted but you can barely keep yours dry when anyone is critical of Howe on here. Surely you understand that people are going to be frustrated seeing the same glaring issues game after game to the extent we’re only 2 points ahead of Wolves?

[LordJake]

The target last season was 10th, the target this year is 8th

[Hanshithispantz]

5 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

I do think the Burn thing gets blown out of proportion. The manager isn't an imbecile; he'll be aware of the player's weaknesses but feels there are other benefits to playing him. He's a leader and his height gives him a unique strength both when dealing with crosses, as well a carrying a goal threat for us when we've no strikers. There's also the effect his being there has on Trippier's role.

 

As others have said, Livramento coming in won't suddenly stop there from being caverns of space between our midfield and defence; it's not as simple as just playing a quicker LB.

But player fast, burn slow, tino win win

[Shak]

He'll not be under any real pressure in terms of his job IMO, particularly with Ashworth jumping. All things considered, he's done a fantastic job and is a young, English manager that has shown some elite traits.

 

I do however think he's putting some stuff on his resume that does give cause for concern about the future, though.

 

The favouritism with Burn is very disappointing, don't think there's really any argument to be made that Burn is a better option than Tino has been this season.

 

Also, I do worry about how quick he'll be to change things up when needed in the future. Pretty clear that teams have found a way to get at us defensively this season and there's been no real signs of any attempt to change things up.

 

Today we started 6 of the 8 players who made up our back five and midfield last season and we're just so easy to get at. Yeah, Joelinton and Pope are big losses but I don't think getting those two back is going to be a magic bullet.

 

Looking forward to the summer, squad desperately needs a freshening up and with Ashworth gone it seems safe to assume that Howe will be the loudest voice in the room when deciding what moves we make in the transfer market.

 

Hopefully we bring in the right players and hit the ground running next season and have the squad to play the way we want to play, I do think most of the issues Eddie has had will be solved with a better squad of players to choose from.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, LordJake said:

The target last season was 10th, the target this year is 8th

We don’t know what the target is.  My view at the start of the season was that 7th/8th would represent a decent campaign, and my opinion hasn’t changed.  Part of the issue is the lop-sided nature of the season creating recency bias.  

[Ronaldo]

Just now, LordJake said:

The target last season was 10th, the target this year is 8th

If we finished 10th last season there’s absolutely no doubt in my mind Eddie would’ve have lost his job. Zero. You don’t spend hundreds of millions to go from 11th to 10th in a league where Brentford and Fulham finish top half.

[Gallowgate Toon]

For those calling for 3 at the back, we already play like that in possession anyway.

 

Howe is right to stick with his principles for the long term benefit of players imo. It's chaos now but it won't be in future. Just a phase we're in. He's clearly managing some half-fit players too so quite a few can't go full pelt.

 

Burn is the main thing you can dig him for today but, tbh, I thought he adjusted well after 20 minutes and then the goal came. Still, I'd be looking to introduce Tino now for home games at least with a look to next season regardless.

[Kanji]

What do people really expect? We’ve been without half a team all season. I’m annoyed about the left back issue but otherwise I have no real other things to say about the matter. We’re still 7th with half a squad and still in the FA cup.