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38 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

We haven’t had a shot on target in 166 minutes and look incapable of unlocking defences in most games. We don’t look remotely threatening from corners and our general attacking play is rubbish. We give the ball away a lot - I’d love to see the statistic on our surrender of possession compared to other teams in the league.

Nothing we’ve seen for the past 6-8 months suggests we’re a well oiled machine about to go on a winning run.

 

Are you seeing something different to that? Maybe I’m just being too critical 🤷🏻‍♂️


but for a penalty scored and a moment of daftness today we’d be joint third. 

Have we been great, no, not really. I just can’t get this world on fire thing quite yet personally 

 

 

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madras

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Just now, astraguy said:

4-4-2 now please ,last season was always a piss take until either wilson came on or isak and the midfield is a car crash 

It's not even that, it's not 442 or 433, we need more fluidity further forward. We see what Tonali can do, same Bruno, I'm now thinking 451. Back 4, Isak up front and 5 in the middle doing the rest (kind of Italy of late).

 

When we attack, unless it's a break we stop 25yds outside we have little movement and end up with no one in the box. In this situation we are better off with Wilson than Isak but Isak better on the break.

 

We're caught between two stools, the break or the domination and we don't have the personnel for both.

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i don't abide boards buying players that managers didn't want but we also cannot have a "guehi or noone" type window again.  I hope all that Mitchell talk wasn't just bullshit and Eddie's on board because I'd much rather they back him than sack him.

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1 minute ago, thomas said:

i don't abide boards buying players that managers didn't want but we also cannot have a "guehi or noone" type window again.  I hope all that Mitchell talk wasn't just bullshit and Eddie's on board because I'd much rather they back him than sack him.

 

As we always said, they need to work together. Probably the summer is where we'll really see it though, Jan is quite early and always a difficult window to work in. 

 

Wouldn't be surprised if we got Guehi in January at all.

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2 hours ago, Holmesy said:

It’s less the results though and more the performances. We have knowledgeable football guys with the ear of the board and if they’re seeing why we’re seeing, he might be closer to the door than you think.
If we were showing signs of playing well but not getting the rub of the green, you’d say the tide might turn. But we look totally bereft of ideas regardless who is playing. We’ve been labouring for a good while now and we know he’s not the kind of manager to park the bus and grind out a result just to kickstart some momentum. 

The only way I see things changing if he gets 2-3 new first teamers in January, which isn’t going to happen. How else is he going to change it? 

 

Finally a view that isn't coloured by the sentimentality of good results a full season and a half ago. The realists know Eddie isn't going to be here in 5 years time unless he starts getting results. At the present whatever he was doing before isn't working now, and he isn't showing signs of adapting. He got a pass last season for the previous years results and having to deal with injuries, but he doesn't have last years results to excuse this years now and the injuries aren't washing anymore

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38 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Another game today that highlights how bad our squad building has been. 80 odd million spend on two left wingers, both of them getting played out of position today.

 

Highlights a manager using a player out of position moreso than it does anything about the squad building. Gordon was identified as a backup CF when he signed anyway. 

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AyeDubbleYoo

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I'm definitely fully behind Howe and have him down as a club legend already. But, I am starting to worry that the performances are so poor so often. 

 

Can easily turn around though, he will obviously be here at least until the end of the season so he has a chance to make everything great again. 

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42 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Another game today that highlights how bad our squad building has been. 80 odd million spend on two left wingers, both of them getting played out of position today.

Gordon played a fair bit on the right at Everton, we started him there, we signed him for his adaptability more than his left fingerless. He only got the run on the left due to Barnes's near season long injury.

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6 minutes ago, astraguy said:

what a post by @thelittlemans
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While I agree with a lot of the sentiment, the comment about West Ham fans is bollocks. Moyes was clearly going stale there, and replacing him with a manager who hasn't done great so far doesn't disprove that. 

 

Most managers eventually run their course at a club. I'm not saying Howe has or hasn't, it's simply a fact that it usually happens sooner or later. 

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7 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

While I agree with a lot of the sentiment, the comment about West Ham fans is bollocks. Moyes was clearly going stale there, and replacing him with a manager who hasn't done great so far doesn't disprove that. 

 

Most managers eventually run their course at a club. I'm not saying Howe has or hasn't, it's simply a fact that it usually happens sooner or later. 

Yes.  E.g. we got worse after Pardew left, doesn't mean we were wrong to want him out.

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18 minutes ago, astraguy said:

what a post by @thelittlemans
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Depends on how you look at it i guess.

 

Yes we got robbed by the penalty decision, but we also got massively outplayed in 5 of the 6 games(although we defended well).

 

Yes we got seventh, but we also only won 4 more games than we lost. And ALOT of the performances were just truly awful. 

 

Yes we had a couple of good games before these last 2 games, but before that we had a run of us being very poor in nearly every single one. 

 

We could have been third (temporarily), but we sure as shit didnt deserve to win today. The fact is that we are 10th and probably have gotten more points than we should have.

 

Now i dont think most of us that are negative believe that Howe should be sacked asap, we just think that if things doesnt improve soonish enough that the writing is on the wall.

 

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21 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Highlights a manager using a player out of position moreso than it does anything about the squad building. Gordon was identified as a backup CF when he signed anyway. 

Well that's on the manager for not recognising that the 'back up' isn't up to the role. That is where Osula should be coming in..unless he genuinely was just a signing for signings sake. 

 

Even as a project player he's not going to be up to playing if he never gets any meaningful time and 15m is a lot to spend on a seat warmer in the dugout. Almost as stupid as the 70m (last i heard) spent on Vlachidmiousosos

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2 minutes ago, gjohnson said:

Well that's on the manager for not recognising that the 'back up' isn't up to the role. That is where Osula should be coming in..unless he genuinely was just a signing for signings sake. 

 

Even as a project player he's not going to be up to playing if he never gets any meaningful time and 15m is a lot to spend on a seat warmer in the dugout. Almost as stupid as the 70m (last i heard) spent on Vlachidmiousosos

 

If you want to argue that Osula should be at CF ahead of a square peg, I wouldn't argue, but if you're arguing that a lack of playtime is stunting his development, then Lewis Hall is an incredibly recent counter-argument to that. Or has this ropey start to the season eradicated Howe's track record for developing players as well? 

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Osula.

 

I know because of PSR some think we need to buy players for 4 million etc but that’s a bit silly.

 

He was 15 million, he’s cheap relative to the league he’s a project player signed to be developed it’s not that deep 

 

Either embrace a development model or don’t, he’s what it’s going to look like. 

 

 

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