Eddie Howe

[SUPERTOON]

I agree there seemingly aren't any better options than Howe, but i think quite a few managers would have done a much better job this season with this group of players in the league. 

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I understand the point if you're talking about players because the amount there is is endless, but when it comes to managers the list is short enough that anyone should be able to make suggestions.

 

It's not a request for you to be our CEO, it's a basic question that you should be able to answer if you're advocating for a change from what we already have imo. If you can't answer it even to yourself I'd be thinking about what a change will entail and whether it'll be an improvement.

 

So many catastrophes, not just within football, have come off the back of "needing a change" without any consideration for what that change will be.

 

I've already answered. I said I'd take Alonso here. I'm also a big admirer of Iraola at Bournemouth. Love how his team plays and he hasn't really had much of a budget to work with either, regularly losing his best players. He'll get a crack at a bigger club sooner or later.

[TRon]

1 minute ago, Wallsendmag said:

People saying he needs better players but surely our players are better than Sunderlands, no?

 

They've outfought and outworked us twice now. Tactically they were better than us today as well 2nd half. That's nowt to do with talent.

 

 

Yep. They might be a shit team, but they set themselves up to make the most of their limited talent. They actually looked the more composed when they were approaching dangerous areas than we did as well. 

[Monters]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Probably a lot to do with games played though. 

Yep, interesting that every team that played in the CL midweek have lost in the league with truly awful performances this weekend. 

[Holloway]

6 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

It's one of the reasons I voted unhappy but willing to give him more time. I don't think he will turn it around tbh, but with there being no obvious candidates who we will get a free run at, I think he'll get another season by default. 

 

He needs better players to work with, but then he also needs to be able to make better use of the ones we've got. I think his tactics haven't worked this season and I'm not sure he's capable of doing anything different given another season of European football. 

I'm loathe to say it because I love his bones, but I agree with this.

[Chicken Dancer]

Some people support Howe before they support NUFC. I totally get why, but the best managers in history reach the end of a cycle at some point. 
 

We’ve been dire all season, we’ve spent a fortune and got worse. Time for a change. 

[Leemond]

Surely we get Howe out now, bring Alonso in and see which load of shite he wants to keep, then go again in the summer?

[Jesse Pinkman]

Do people really think Howe is the best manager in the world and no one can replace him? 

[TRon]

Just now, Wallsendmag said:

 

I've already answered. I said I'd take Alonso here. I'm also a big admirer of Iraola at Bournemouth. Love how his team plays and he hasn't really had much of a budget to work with either, regularly losing his best players. He'll get a crack at a bigger club sooner or later.

 

 

I'm a big fan of Iraola but feels like one of the other big clubs will be in for him by next season. Spurs and Man U were the obvious choices but if Spurs go down, and Man U give Carrick the job permanently, he might still be an option. 

[Keggy_Keagal]

Alonso's going to Liverpool lads. It's a done deal 

[Shadow Puppets]

42 minutes ago, Casey said:

Always think you give well-measured and balanced takes. Agreed that I think we've lost that spark and our game management / ability to see out games is abysmal. Provably the worst in the league.

 

I do wonder, how come you don't share that feeling (disdain as you put it) that I feel the majority of fans do?

 

Genuinely curious from fan-to-fan. Always wondered about our fans who have this opinion. 

 

 

 

I don’t know specifically why. I grew up basically bang in the middle of Newcastle and Sunderland, with friends and family supporting both. At lot of shared heartache and two teams massively underachieving over the years makes me see them as more of a victim of modern day football and finances in not too dissimilar way to us.

 

My actual disdain is saved for the teams who rule the roost. The ones we should truly hate for their effect on football.

 

I obviously want to beat them every time we play and finish higher in the league for bragging rights, but they’re a small part of our journey we’re attempting to go on, and it’s far more important to look at the overall bigger picture than a couple of specific games against a rival.

The bigger picture to me is that this season has been poor, but it’s a poor season with a lot of mitigating factors (mainly stemming from ownership in my opinion). Eddie has done incredibly well as our manager over the last 4 years, and in my opinion deserves our support as much as possible through a rough period. He’s still delivered some incredibly memorable nights in amongst a tough year, and I don’t really have any doubts that with a good summer we can go again and build, but it will take lots of support from the boardroom and lots of support from the fanbase to see out the season in an okay way and build from there.

 

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, Wallsendmag said:

 

I've already answered. I said I'd take Alonso here. I'm also a big admirer of Iraola at Bournemouth. Love how his team plays and he hasn't really had much of a budget to work with either, regularly losing his best players. He'll get a crack at a bigger club sooner or later.

First time you've mentioned it to me.

 

Alonso is unrealistic. He's supposedly being lined up by Liverpool.

 

Iriola, fair enough if that's your shout. Not sure what he's done to show he's more than a fleeting flavour of the month though.

 

[Doctor Zaius]

Pochettino if he doesn't go to Spurs

[SUPERTOON]

Interesting a lot on here are now blaming the board, opposite of what was being said about them for a while. They have been poor since Ashworth left imo. 

[Wallsendmag]

Just now, Leemond said:

Surely we get Howe out now, bring Alonso in and see which load of shite he wants to keep, then go again in the summer?

 

I'd love him here. The job did did at Leverkusen can't be understated. Took them from the relegation zone, to the League and Cup double, going through the entire season unbeaten domestically, and the Europa League Final.

 

I was actually at Leverkusens last home game before they brought him in. They lost 3-0 to Hoffenheim and were an absolute shambles. To go from that to winning a League and Cup double the following season is nothing short of miraculous.

[Decky]

46 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I can't get my head around this like. How did they back him in the summer? That's not what happened at all and it's becoming mental the way in which what actually happened is ignored even after it's brought up.

 

 

How much money did we spend? We might not have been in the best position with a sporting director etc but we were where we were and we spent probably the most money we've ever spent in a transfer window in the clubs history.

 

The ownership of the club are responsible for not having the proper structure in place, no one is disputing that, but we still spent a fortune and Howe was at the forefront of it and his signings haven't delivered. We spent nearly 200m on Wolt, Elanga and Wissa alone and how many goals have they scored in 2026?

 

[Wallsendmag]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

First time you've mentioned it to me.

 

Alonso is unrealistic. He's supposedly being lined up by Liverpool.

 

Iriola, fair enough if that's your shout. Not sure what he's done to show he's more than a fleeting flavour of the month though.

 

 

Didn't realise it had to run things past you. Thanks for letting me know. I'll bear that in mind in future.

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Monters said:

Yep, interesting that every team that played in the CL midweek have lost in the league with truly awful performances this weekend. 

Awful for the most part in the CL as well. I can't point to a single Premier League team this season that has looked good or been consistent.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

16 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

It all feels remarkably similar to how Bournemouth fans describe the end of Eddie’s era there. 

 

History repeating.

Hmm, maybe but I’m sure managers have these periods and then don’t get sacked. 

[vexred]

3 minutes ago, Leemond said:

Surely we get Howe out now, bring Alonso in and see which load of shite he wants to keep, then go again in the summer?

 

He'll be at Liverpool next season. Out of the suggestions so far I like Iraola the most. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I don’t know specifically why. I grew up basically bang in the middle of Newcastle and Sunderland, with friends and family supporting both. At lot of shared heartache and two teams massively underachieving over the years makes me see them as more of a victim of modern day football and finances in not too dissimilar way to us.

 

My actual disdain is saved for the teams who rule the roost. The ones we should truly hate for their effect on football.

 

I obviously want to beat them every time we play and finish higher in the league for bragging rights, but they’re a small part of our journey we’re attempting to go on, and it’s far more important to look at the overall bigger picture than a couple of specific games against a rival.

The bigger picture to me is that this season has been poor, but it’s a poor season with a lot of mitigating factors (mainly stemming from ownership in my opinion). Eddie has done incredibly well as our manager over the last 4 years, and in my opinion deserves our support as much as possible through a rough period. He’s still delivered some incredibly memorable nights in amongst a tough year, and I don’t really have any doubts that with a good summer we can go again and build, but it will take lots of support from the boardroom and lots of support from the fanbase to see out the season in an okay way and build from there.

 

I feel the same, I hardly think about Sunderland. I know in my head that it’s meant to be our biggest game but I don’t really care that much. Certainly not enough for it to influence my choice of manager. 

[Kilcline]

I'm still on the fence re Howe but if folk were pissed off with last summer and having to go down lists of players and all that carry on we'd be a long way down the queue waiting for the big clubs/jobs to make moves around the World Cup. It'd make last summer look like a slick operation 

[Decky]

49 minutes ago, astraguy said:

 Gone far in all of the cups with a bare minimum squad, how much have pepo, Slot, Arteta,Chelsea spent? and how many flops have they had? we've had errrrrrrrrm one so far in wissa (atm in time)

 

Wissa is our only flop? Elanga has been awful and we signed Wolt as a forward and we're now playing him in midfield. That's near £200m worth of signings.

[TRon]

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Interesting a lot on here are now blaming the board, opposite of what was being said about them for a while. They have been poor since Ashworth left imo. 

 

 

A lot of them have been replaced since Eales left, presumably because they were deemed to have done a poor job. 

[Casey]

2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I don’t know specifically why. I grew up basically bang in the middle of Newcastle and Sunderland, with friends and family supporting both. At lot of shared heartache and two teams massively underachieving over the years makes me see them as more of a victim of modern day football and finances in not too dissimilar way to us.

 

My actual disdain is saved for the teams who rule the roost. The ones we should truly hate for their effect on football.

 

I obviously want to beat them every time we play and finish higher in the league for bragging rights, but they’re a small part of our journey we’re attempting to go on, and it’s far more important to look at the overall bigger picture than a couple of specific games against a rival.

The bigger picture to me is that this season has been poor, but it’s a poor season with a lot of mitigating factors (mainly stemming from ownership in my opinion). Eddie has done incredibly well as our manager over the last 4 years, and in my opinion deserves our support as much as possible through a rough period. He’s still delivered some incredibly memorable nights in amongst a tough year, and I don’t really have any doubts that with a good summer we can go again and build, but it will take lots of support from the boardroom and lots of support from the fanbase to see out the season in an okay way and build from there.

 

Fair play.

 

Think those are all valid and good points. I very much feel an instrinsic visceral hate that I'm not sure I could ever shake with rationality and (reasonable) logic you've demonstrated. Perhaps that makes me simplistic, or stubborn, alas it is what is it. Cheers for the response. 👍