Eddie Howe

[DC Magpie]

On 22/03/2026 at 11:22, ramirez said:

For all the cup exploits this season I don’t think we’ve beaten anyone we weren’t expected to beat, maybe Villa away before the red. Pretty much par in cl and some kind draws in the league cup, credit deserved for getting so far but will ultimately be judged by league position.

 

We had a couple games recently - ManU and Chelsea - where I have to admit I was somewhat surprised / pleased we won. But I have to admit that I didn't realize at the time that Chelsea is managed by a weirdo.

[Beren]

Question for those who want Howe to stay: if Alonso wanted to join, would you agree with replacing Howe?

[Kid Icarus]

3 minutes ago, Beren said:

Question for those who want Howe to stay: if Alonso wanted to join, would you agree with replacing Howe?

 

I wouldn't agree, but I would understand the move even if I didn't want it or agree with it. 

[Pilko]

5 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

This is the issue though. He'll want to keep half of them. Pope stays with another year on his contract. Think the club will take Ramsdale out of his hands and go get another. He'll want burn and tripps to stay for experience. Krafth for cover which doesn't demand to play. Targett will go, his choice and Howe didn't want him anyway. He loves Murphy so he's staying, probably a new deal. Willock he'll cash in for if anyone will take him. He won't admit failings on Elanga and Wissa. He'll want them another year. Woltemade won't fetch what we paid, so unless it's a loan to buy, we're stuck with him for a while. 

 

This is the main thing for me which goes beyond all the debate on credit in the bank, tactics, mitigating circumstances etc. The rebuild job this summer needs to be big and ruthless and he's gone on record to say he doesn't like turning over too many players, he quite likes a 4-5 in and out summer each time. That means some of the incomings to support the squad underbelly need to be lower priced, educated gambles and he doesn't really like to sign those. There's only really Osula that fits the bill in recent memory and as we've seen it's taken a year and a half for him to be trusted with regular cameos.

 

I get there's times we'll need to bow to PSR to plug a gap for a year by extending someone and prioritise etc when it's not exactly ideal, but I just don't see him wanting to make the wholesale changes to the squad that are needed. 

 

Burn and Trippier have been phenomenal for us but I think are also a big reason why we ship loads of goals at the minute. Given their respective wages and influence I doubt they'd want to do the Krafth style 4-5 emergency appearances role, so we either need to let them go or accept they'll be 20-25 appearance minimum contributors next season. I can't predict what Howe is thinking but I'm pretty certain he'd want to keep both and that worries me.

[Geordie Ahmed]

4 minutes ago, Beren said:

Question for those who want Howe to stay: if Alonso wanted to join, would you agree with replacing Howe?

 

No, I want Howe to stay because I believe he can get us performing above par, it has nothing to do with anyone else

 

If I get to a stage when I think Howe isn't able to do that then I'd call for a change

[Beren]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I wouldn't agree, but I would understand the move even if I didn't want it or agree with it. 

 

Is there any manager you'd agree replacing him with?

[Kimbo]

7 minutes ago, 365 said:

Howe is a fantastic manager. The only one with both ability and respect since Robson. Before Robson we have to go back to Keegan. No one else comes close since Joe Harvey. We should keep Howe as long as we can. Do not criticise him. Love him.

 

Our challenges do not relate to Howe, but to owners who have not yet sorted out investment in training facilities and a new 100,000 seat stadium, beside the current stadium, with 20,000 seats reserved for 13 to 20 year olds in Newcastle @ £5 per match.

I’m sensing a seagull in distress.

[mayubeproud]

11 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Which consistent teams should I be comparing it with? I just don't think football works like that for the most part. Form is always a thing that happens. Even in 22/23 we had poorer moments, but they were sort of forgotten about because they were draws and imo because back then it was new and exciting.

You can compare with this Newcastle team, where our expected points per game was almost always around 2.0 for about a year.

[365]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I wouldn't agree, but I would understand the move even if I didn't want it or agree with it. 

It is not going to happen. We have zero chance of getting someone else with close to the class of Howe before we have serious investment in new training facilities, new stadium and can compete with leading clubs to recruit the best players.

[Whitley mag]

3 hours ago, Shadow Puppets said:

You’d be happy with a “younger unproven manager” over a proven manager who has delivered our very best days, proven time and time again (here and at Bournemouth) that he’s an excellent coach, one that the players love and respect… just because of one underwhelming season where we’ve still made some incredible memories?

 

Apologies if this comes across as harsh, but I think that is absolutely mental and incredibly short sighted.

His time at Bournemouth came to an end, it does for managers at most clubs eventually.

 

I genuinely think he’s taken us as far as he can, I don’t dispute he’s a great bloke, ambassador and excellent coach. 
 

Unfortunately, my gut tells me he’s taken us as far as he can and the rebuild needed just won’t happen under him.

My opinion is that you let him spend 150 million this summer and double down on his preferred style of player we’ll be no further forward. 
 

Como are 4th top of Serie A. I think he’d help attract young stars from abroad, which should be our model going forward until our revenues allow us to compete.

 

I’m happy to roll the dice after that disgrace yesterday.

 

 

Edited March 23 by Whitley mag

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, Beren said:

Is there any manager you'd agree replacing him with?

 

Agree isn't the right word really, because on its own I wouldn't agree with getting rid of Howe at all and regardless of who he's replaced with I wouldn't agree with the decision to get rid. 

 

There are some that would make the decision understandable, but none that I would agree with. 

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, 365 said:

It is not going to happen. We have zero chance of getting someone else with close to the class of Howe before we have serious investment in new training facilities, new stadium and can compete with leading clubs to recruit the best players.

Yeah I know, it was a hypothetical question. 

[Geordie Ahmed]

3 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

His time at Bournemouth came to an end, it does for managers at most clubs eventually.

 

I genuinely think he’s taken us as far as he can, I don’t dispute he’s a great bloke, ambassador and excellent coach. 
 

Unfortunately, my gut tells me he’s taken us as far as he can and the rebuild needed just won’t happen under him.

My opinion is that you let him spend 150 million this summer and double down on his preferred style of player we’ll be no further forward. 
 

Como are 4th top of Serie A. I think he’d help attract young stars from abroad, which should be our model going forward until our revenues allow us to compete.

 

I’m happy to roll the dice after that disgrace yesterday.

 

 

 

 

Wanting him gone for the numerous reasons people have highlighted is one thing but I find the bit in bold absolutely mad like

 

If the Botman header goes in and we see the game out or if Gordon doesn't send the ball into the atmosphere twice you'd be fine for him to stay? 

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, mayubeproud said:

You can compare with this Newcastle team, where our expected points per game was almost always around 2.0 for about a year.

 

That's two different Newcastle teams tbf, we bought Livramento, Hall, Tonali, Barnes the summer in the middle. 

I'm not sure xpts are particularly useful as a measure of consistency either tbh

[KaKa]

This summer is going to be terrifying man. I think it will be clear what needs to happen going forward once it's all said and done. The whole approach and decision making regarding incomings and outgoings will provide so much clarity.

[nufcjmc]

2 minutes ago, KaKa said:

This summer is going to be terrifying man. I think it will be clear what needs to happen going forward once it's all said and done. The whole approach and decision making regarding incomings and outgoings will provide so much clarity.

I understand the pessimistic outlook based on the summer window just gone however I hope the club see this an an opportunity that older players get to go with our blessing and we look to refresh and the chance to push on again. 

 

The "rot" started with the kicking the can down the road on certain players and with the multiple windows we couldn't bring anyone meaningful in before the summer added the scoop of shite to top it all of off. 

 

The current season and how its gone has hopefully made it clear in the eyes on the decision makers this isn't a "lets let everyone get a year older and hope the magic returns next season". 

 

Obviously being able to see those changes through, the "hit" rate of those changes and who needs to be sacrificed in order to help the rebuild is all open for debate. 

[Skeletor]

I'm genuinely terrified what direction this club is going in. It feels like we are no longer a PIF priority. Eddie seems to have lost whatever magic touch he had to make things work. The Isak money has more or less been spent and I'm afraid of the penny pinching that will becoming our way due to PSR. Even the players, who used to fight hard for the shirt, genuinely don't give a shit any more. No-one could even be bothered to come forward for an interview after the mackems loss. Its going to be ugly in my opinion.

[jarralad]

Love him but I think he's already hit his peak with us and now it's just downhill. 

[Ellis H]

I'm definitely of the opinion that he's taken us as far as he can but not because he's holding us back, but rather because we're holding him back. Both as a club and (a section of) the fan base. 

 

He'll be one of the best managers in the world eventually but chances are it'll be for someone else because the club is a fucking mess and the alleged fans who are desperate for him to go deserve the Pardew and Bruce types that they were perfectly happy to sit through because it scratched their "I fucking love being miserable" itch. 

 

He needs to run for his life and never look back.

 

 

[nufcjmc]

 

Its the what iffery of it all that makes me want to give him more time he is definitely at least in part to blame for the mess we find ourselves in however I think to myself: 

 

what if he got his first choices 

what if even if Wissa is one of them he didnt get injured straight away 

what if the board could have got the rat to give us 12 months more to plan 

what if the sporting director went at the end of the summer not at the start

what if we had a team in place that could work on more than 1 deal at a time 

what if so many players didnt turn us down

 

Obviously I could add more and the retort to all this is every club faces challenges and doesn't always get what they want and suffer set backs have we managed those affectively?  I guess I think about some of the games being smaller margins and what if things had of gone our way and what could Howe do with more of the top targets coming in?

 

Will he get the time? does he deserve the time? do we risk going all in on "Howe ball" if the next manager that comes along doesn't align so much to that ethos? 

 

I guess that's where I get the pages upon pages of back and forth debate as there are no quick fixes or easy options here. Howe could get another 18 months and a couple of hundred million in players and still not work out this dance of alternatives to 4-3-3 and playing 2 or 3 games a week. Same could be said with a new face who wants his own players in and the churn doesn't always bring success meaning we are back on the manager hunt more often than we would like. 

 

Whatever we do now unfortunately feels like a gamble either way than a "sure thing" anymore. 

[RS]

Can’t help think that our fan base expects far too much.  It plays into opposing fans views on us perfectly.
 

We are, and nearly always have been, a bang average club. PSR will always keep us as exactly that. 
To be anything else, it will need a slow build.  The key focus on youth development and finding potential. 

 

Changing managers because of  1  poor season is a knee-jerk reaction. Last season Eddie was being hailed as a local hero.  Now the fans are collecting their pitchforks to drive him out of the club. 
 

[Maggies]

Still wounded from yesterday. Football is a results game.

 

Give him a mini season between now and end of season. If we qualify for Europe, then he gets another season. If he doesn’t, then that’s evidence enough for him to go.

 

Who we replace him with can be answered in the summer.

 

But it should be very clear - not finishing in Europe, the number of disgusting performances and losing both derbies is not acceptable. Red lines crossed.

 

More than enough time has passed for the baseline measure of success to be greater than the Ashley/Bruce days.

[Sir Joel Inton]

1 minute ago, RS said:

Changing managers because of  1  poor season is a knee-jerk reaction.

 

This gets trotted out on here regularly, as well as, “people only want him to go after a defeat”, but you only need to read through the credible comments across these pages to recognise the concerns with Howe go throughout his time with us and Bournemouth.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

2 minutes ago, Maggies said:

Still wounded from yesterday. Football is a results game.

 

Give him a mini season between now and end of season. If we qualify for Europe, then he gets another season. If he doesn’t, then that’s evidence enough for him to go.

 

Who we replace him with can be answered in the summer.

 

But it should be very clear - not finishing in Europe, the number of disgusting performances and losing both derbies is not acceptable. Red lines crossed.

 

More than enough time has passed for the baseline measure of success to be greater than the Ashley/Bruce days.

 

What if we miss out on Europe by GD? Or on the last due to a shocking refereeing decision? 

[arnonel]

Would those who want him out, still want him out if he got a trophy and champions league next season?