Billy Pilgrim Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Didn’t Jesus knock us out of the uefa cup under Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Yes. And did so playing Beautiful football. Defence was a bit all own like but it was fun to watch and he’s been successful with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just now, Rafalove said: Yes. And did so playing Beautiful football. Defence was a bit all own like but it was fun to watch and he’s been successful with it. That benfica side was littered with football manager fodder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, kamakazeee said: Favre is the most obvious choice. He's a brilliant man manager, tactically very versatile and has done the job/journey we need to go on over next few years in 2 of his previous 3 jobs. (and done it well). He's took the job at Gladbach in a relegation fight and had them in the champions league in 2 years. I also think a quiet, dignified and unassuming manager over the next few years might be just what we need, especially considering how much noise there will be off the pitch. Also, the ASM story is red herring imo, ASM played 38 times in that season they had together., whilst also producing his best numbers, 5 goals and 8 assists. Favre was excellent at Gladbach. He was being spoken in about in the same conversations as Klopp. He developed some excellent youth (Sommer, Xhaka, Kramer, Hazard, Herrmann, etc) and transformed the club into regular Champios League qualifiers, playing some loveky stuff. It just didn't work out for him at Dortmund competing against a very good Bayern outfit, every error was punished. Their defence was unreliable and his in-game management was often questioned. I don't know much about his spell at Nice, but based on his time in Germany we could do a hell of a lot worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Somebody like Rudi Garcia could probably do the job, but probably more risk than anyone would want to take given our situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudi Geordie Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Conte is a "Hot Head" and he is a perfect candidate to turn this ship around! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazeee Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Favre was excellent at Gladbach. He was being spoken in about in the same conversations as Klopp. He developed some excellent youth (Sommer, Xhaka, Kramer, Hazard, Herrmann, etc) and transformed the club into regular Champios League qualifiers, playing some loveky stuff. It just didn't work out for him at Dortmund competing against a very good Bayern outfit, every error was punished. Their defence was unreliable and his in-game management was often questioned. I don't know much about his spell at Nice, but based on his time in Germany we could do a hell of a lot worse. He got Nice to their highest finish and Champions league football and also had Balotelli playing arguably the best football of his career. The thing Favre, he hits a brickwall. He's very good at getting teams overachieving and into European football - which is where largely most of his success has come. He hits a brickwall when it comes to getting teams over the line in terms of winning leagues etc. But, that's not the job we are looking for in the short term, we actually just need Favre to do what he does best, get teams playing good football, develop players and get us moving up the league. Longer term, obviously he could be an issue, but I don't think he's a long term appointment anyway, he's 62/63 now. Edited October 14, 2021 by kamakazeee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Frank Haise is doing a superb job at Lens. Fofana would be an excellent buy too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazeee Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Frank Haise is doing a superb job at Lens. Fofana would be an excellent buy too. Agreed. He's very good at developing players too. But, this is his first job in a top league and he's only a year in - big risk in terms of experience? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Looks like Bruce is in charge till a new manager is picked, fine that they are taking their time with it, but we can’t afford to end up with Lampard/Martinez at the end of this process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I wouldn't say they need to be out of job, we're not operating under Big Mike anymore. On a side note, the idea that there are no good, quality options out there because a couple of geezers on an internet forum can't think of any is great. simpler to get someone in who's available right away rather than having to agree compensation with a club to get someone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, kamakazeee said: Favre is the most obvious choice. He's a brilliant man manager, tactically very versatile and has done the job/journey we need to go on over next few years in 2 of his previous 3 jobs. (and done it well). He's took the job at Gladbach in a relegation fight and had them in the champions league in 2 years. I also think a quiet, dignified and unassuming manager over the next few years might be just what we need, especially considering how much noise there will be off the pitch. Also, the ASM story is red herring imo, ASM played 38 times in that season they had together., whilst also producing his best numbers, 5 goals and 8 assists. This is exactly how I feel, and I know a couple of people have expressed some uncertainty about him in the thread, but I think it's a really good fit at this stage, and potentially further. The job he did at Gladbach is a huge plus for me, and exactly what we need here initially. And if he can then go on to actually build on that and compete then brilliant. He was also in discussions with both Palace and Everton prior to this season and so I would imagine he's been keeping an eye on the Premier league and should have a good idea about it. The fact he already also has a good idea of managing our best player is also massive and so there would be no surprises there. He also got the best out of Balotelli while he was at Nice and there is no character more complicated than that guy! Edited October 14, 2021 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Think ASM also poured cold water on the bust up rumours on Twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I’m all in on Favre based on what I have read on here and some of the articles I have seen. My number one choice is still Conte and him not officially ruling himself out gives me hope it’s possible. He was linked with Arsenal about 6 weeks back and came straight out to deny that, he’s been linked with us for a week now and still hasn’t. Still a long shot I know but it would be such a statement and match with the ambition the consortium spoke about last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 It will be interesting to see who's invited as a guest to the match. DoF and manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just now, Haz said: It will be interesting to see who's invited as a guest to the match. DoF and manager? Would be surprised if anyone like that is there tbh as they will know the media will be on the lookout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 So will the fans. Its never stopped NUFC before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Could also be someone comes in as interim Manager then moves on to become DoF type role at the end of the season when the manager/head coach we want is more likely to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just now, madras said: Could also be someone comes in as interim Manager then moves on to become DoF type role at the end of the season when the manager/head coach we want is more likely to come. Rangnick would be ideal if this is the move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 minute ago, madras said: Could also be someone comes in as interim Manager then moves on to become DoF type role at the end of the season when the manager/head coach we want is more likely to come. I’ve never liked this approach. It blurs the lines too much. It’s the reason Mourinho didn’t come here when SBR said he was going to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just now, christ said: I’ve never liked this approach. It blurs the lines too much. It’s the reason Mourinho didn’t come here when SBR said he was going to it. It would mean saying no now to someone like Conte. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Rangnick would be ideal if this is the move. Exactly who I had in mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Was it Caulkin who pretty much said we are definitely not getting Rangnick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Was it Caulkin who pretty much said we are definitely not getting Rangnick? Don't remember seeing that but for DOF I expect Henrique and Campos are sexier choices, not least that both have been linked to this in the past. I felt everything said about Rangnick in the press was pushing a narrative he was more interested in a role than the new owners might be. Reports yesterday had suggested he would be interviewed along with the others though. He is my top choice for manager, outside Conte. Think he would be an incredible interim appointment. Quite possible he isn't very interested in returning to management at this stage though. Edit: I have also gone "Full Hitzfeld" on Rangnick. Just seems perfect. Edited October 14, 2021 by toontownman Went full Hitzfeld Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 hours ago, kamakazeee said: Favre is the most obvious choice. He's a brilliant man manager, tactically very versatile and has done the job/journey we need to go on over next few years in 2 of his previous 3 jobs. (and done it well). He's took the job at Gladbach in a relegation fight and had them in the champions league in 2 years. I also think a quiet, dignified and unassuming manager over the next few years might be just what we need, especially considering how much noise there will be off the pitch. Also, the ASM story is red herring imo, ASM played 38 times in that season they had together., whilst also producing his best numbers, 5 goals and 8 assists. Take it you didn’t watch any of Dortmund while he was there then? Tactically naive would be an understatement. He’d constantly encourage about 7 players to play in little triangles all in about a 5 metre square. Once the ball was lost, one pass would put through absolutely ANY player who ran from midfield and give them a direct attack on the Dortmund goal. It was a never ending theme. And he just dug his heels in and tried even more players playing in a tiny space with intricate passes. The kind of stuff that can only come off if they are no opposition players at all. Alas, in Germany there are 2 sides involved in a football match so it failed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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