AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I don't get most football fan shit TBH. We're all in the same boat, especially if we have to suffer a shite owner like Ashley. It could just as easily be any other club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Great post, Kanji Prefer the unedited version, mind Haha! Thanks. I felt it was rambling even worse than the one I wrote above. I’m just getting sick of this stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 So do we view Lukaku and any more potential incomings as a play to keep Rafa or the bare minimum to ensure survival? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 So do we view Lukaku and any more potential incomings as a play to keep Rafa or the bare minimum to ensure survival? 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Joselu has got to go down as a failure like. I mean we all new he was shit but I actually think he is worse than I originally thought he would be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Not sure how players who cost so little can be considered a failure honestly. I mean, you generally get what you pay for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 So do we view Lukaku and any more potential incomings as a play to keep Rafa or the bare minimum to ensure survival? survival Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Not sure how players who cost so little can be considered a failure honestly. I mean, you generally get what you pay for. Exactly...the "failure" was not investing in a more proficient centre forward, hardly Rafa`s fault Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Not sure how players who cost so little can be considered a failure honestly. I mean, you generally get what you pay for. Exactly...the "failure" was not investing in a more proficient centre forward, hardly Rafa`s fault Agree, I understand people's frustration with certain players but it feels misdirected to me. The angst of our supporters always seems to spill over, imagine what we could achieve if it was directed properly most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 So do we view Lukaku and any more potential incomings as a play to keep Rafa or the bare minimum to ensure survival? He doesn't want to keep Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Pretty funny read tbh, his only defense is "I seen my club get liquidated, yous have nothing on me" It's a business worth 300 million. If she was talking about a logistics company worth 300 million in Newcastle being run in to the ground no-one would be complaining. Ridiculous tosser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 So do we view Lukaku and any more potential incomings as a play to keep Rafa or the bare minimum to ensure survival? He doesn't want to keep Rafa. I disagree slightly, he doesn't want to keep Rafa on Rafa's terms. I think he would love to keep a manager who can keep us up with minimal expenditure personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 So do we view Lukaku and any more potential incomings as a play to keep Rafa or the bare minimum to ensure survival? He doesn't want to keep Rafa. I disagree slightly, he doesn't want to keep Rafa on Rafa's terms. I think he would love to keep a manager who can keep us up with minimal expenditure personally. I'm convinced Ashley thinks two loan signings will be enough to convince Rafa to sign a new contract. No doubt, come February1, there will be a stream of stories about Ashley offering wonderful terms to Rafa, and pundits up and down the country will toe the Ashley line and ask "How much more does Rafa expect of Mike?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Samaris again (out of contract soon): http://www.sportime.gr/podosfairo/ellines-tou-eksoterikou/246104/apokalypsi-samaris-epanerchetai-i-nioykastl/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Not sure how players who cost so little can be considered a failure honestly. I mean, you generally get what you pay for. Doesn't matter on the cost, He is an absolute failure because he is fucking abysmal at what he is supposed to do. We can't say he is a success because he was cheap. Schar was cheaper for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Paperback sets this up to kibosh later: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-aim-complete-jordan-lukaku-15730180.amp?__twitter_impression=true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Not sure how players who cost so little can be considered a failure honestly. I mean, you generally get what you pay for. Doesn't matter on the cost, He is an absolute failure because he is fucking abysmal at what he is supposed to do. We can't say he is a success because he was cheap. Schar was cheaper for example. Surely someone who no one expected to succeed not succeeding can't be classed as a failure?! We expected him to be shit, he has been shit and therefore he has met expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Paperback sets this up to kibosh later: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-aim-complete-jordan-lukaku-15730180.amp?__twitter_impression=true That’s a few times they’ve described him as ‘cover for Dummett’. Sorry like but we should be aiming to get him in the team and as first choice asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I expected him to not get many goals. However, i expected him to be much stronger and have much more fight about him. So yes, i'd say he's a failure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I think he does want to keep Rafa because he knows a quality manager will cover his non-spending. So if he does just enough to give Rafa hope, guess who wins again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 He's clearly said to Rafa 'sign a longer contract, on these terms, and I'll give you a budget for the window' to which Rafa has probably told him to put his money where his mouth is first. There's been a mexican stand off and the result is that we will only get players in on loan. I'd say this is to try to ensure safety and also in the knowledge that Rafa will walk in the summer. In Ashley's view, there would be no point in spending money on players the next guy won't want. Personally feel that Ashley will be very very happy to see the back of Rafa as he'll hate the political comments/games that Rafa plays. There's no way a Pardew, Kinnear or McClaren would have done what Rafa has done and certainly not as acutely. We'll be back to a yes man in the summer who he'll probably give a budget to, albeit small. The money is there but the fat lad won't release it because of the Rafa contract situation imho. The reason he wants Rafa to extend his stay is because he knows that the name and calibre makes us more attractive to potential buyers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Paperback sets this up to kibosh later: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-aim-complete-jordan-lukaku-15730180.amp?__twitter_impression=true That’s a few times they’ve described him as ‘cover for Dummett’. Sorry like but we should be aiming to get him in the team and as first choice asap. Yep, 19 mil for Paul Dummett cover would disappointing to say the least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Paperback sets this up to kibosh later: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-aim-complete-jordan-lukaku-15730180.amp?__twitter_impression=true That’s a few times they’ve described him as ‘cover for Dummett’. Sorry like but we should be aiming to get him in the team and as first choice asap. Cover for Dummett doesn't make any sense. He'll be competing with Ritchie for the left wing back role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I think he doesn't have a lot of faith in Rafa because of his failed signings, so he won't sanction anything other than loans. Regardless of the implications of that on any impending contract showdowns. Wouldn't be remotely surprised if he's sacked before the season's out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I think he doesn't have a lot of faith in Rafa because of his failed signings, so he won't sanction anything other than loans. Regardless of the implications of that on any impending contract showdowns. Wouldn't be remotely surprised if he's sacked before the season's out. That can't be right, surely? He just wants to spend as little as possible, full stop. How can Rafa have loads of good signings when he's not allowed any money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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