Sibierski Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 That felt like a performance of a man whose legs have gone. Could be fitness which is fair at 34, harder to get up to speed, but if he’s coming into side next season rusty when Tino is injured, making mistakes isn’t ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Tino needs to be our first choice RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TRon said: Not impressed by our lack of ruthlessness when we had the chance to shift him for £12m in the January window. I thought we were cannier in the transfer market than this, but all this leadership cobblers will come home to roost in the transfer market further down the line. Look at Real Madrid for example. It came as a surprise when they let go of players like Varane and Casemiro. Everyone gets it now why they did. Edited May 15, 2024 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leemond Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Looks finished at this level. Tino a huge miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Looked very rusty tonight - I expect he wouldn't have played, had Tino been fit. The injury curse this season has been almost never-ending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 6 minutes ago, TRon said: Not impressed by our lack of ruthlessness when we had the chance to shift him for £12m in the January window. I thought we were cannier in the transfer market than this, but all this leadership cobblers will come home to roost in the transfer market further down the line. Supposedly the third and final offer from Bayern was far less. Something like £6m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Our worst player by far tonight, I thought. Hoping it’s just rustiness. As he started the season well, had that 6-7 game stretch of constantly fucking up. Then rediscovered a bit of form when he came back. I’m not saying he was tossing it off ala Michael Owen. But he looked like he was just going through the motions before England duty. Was miles off it all the time. Slow to react by basically a second or two at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, 80 said: Supposedly the third and final offer from Bayern was far less. Something like £6m? Never heard that figure before your post, the general consensus was that their offer was £12m and some on here thought we might get £20m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Should have taken the Bayern money. Think his age is catching up with him. Has looked dodgy defensively all season. Can't see him getting any better from here. Not as a 34 year old full back in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 10 minutes ago, Leemond said: Looks finished at this level. Tino a huge miss. Bit harsh, but defensively he’s been a bit of a liability this season and that will only get worse. I’d be pissed off if I was a RB losing out on an England spot this summer in favour of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 12 minutes ago, Erikse said: Look at Real Madrid for example. It came as a surprise when they let go of players like Varane and Casemiro. Everyone gets it now why they did. They sold Casemiro and bought Tchoumani & Camavinga in the same window. They sold Varane and got Alaba in on a free. We’ll be playing Krafth. I do think it was a bit of a missed opportunity though. I don’t want him starting for us primarily. Love the lad but it’s Tino’s turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: Should have taken the Bayern money. Think his age is catching up with him. Has looked dodgy defensively all season. Can't see him getting any better from here. Not as a 34 year old full back in the Premier League. Tbf to him. His mistakes this year have been mostly brain farts. The type he had at Spurs and earlier. That bozo side has come back in big style. I don’t think it’s a decline in terms of defensive lapses. More a return to his level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Wouldn't have started tonight if Tino had been 70% fit. However if someone should offer, like Wilson imo, 15 to 20mill in the summer then .......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, The College Dropout said: They sold Casemiro and bought Tchoumani & Camavinga in the same window. They sold Varane and got Alaba in on a free. We’ll be playing Krafth. I do think it was a bit of a missed opportunity though. I don’t want him starting for us primarily. Love the lad but it’s Tino’s turn. Yeah, that's fair. But they also sold Varane for £60m. Wasn't he considered to be one of the very best central defenders at the time? Or am I not remembering it correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, madras said: Wouldn't have started tonight if Tino had been 70% fit. However if someone should offer, like Wilson imo, 15 to 20mill in the summer then .......... At this point I'm not even sure if people are on the wind up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 1 minute ago, Erikse said: Yeah, that's fair. But they also sold Varane for £60m. Wasn't he considered to be one of the very best central defenders at the time? Or am I not remembering it correctly. I guess to people that didn’t watch Real - yeh. He has the name and reputation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 1 minute ago, TRon said: At this point I'm not even sure if people are on the wind up. You wouldnt accept 15mill or you don't think Tino would have started ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, madras said: You wouldnt accept 15mill or you don't think Tino would have started ? No one offered £15m in January, why would they do it now? Does anyone do that any more for a 34 year old full back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 13 minutes ago, TRon said: Never heard that figure before your post, the general consensus was that their offer was £12m and some on here thought we might get £20m. A timeline came out soon after it concluded. I forget the source, but supposedly it was something stupid like: 1st offer - Free transfer, 2nd offer - £2.5m, 3rd and final offer - £6m. It was a shocker and made telling them to get stuffed sound a lot more reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, TRon said: No one offered £15m in January, why would they do it now? Does anyone do that any more for a 34 year old full back? Did Bayern want him on a free ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: 8 minutes ago, Erikse said: Yeah, that's fair. But they also sold Varane for £60m. Wasn't he considered to be one of the very best central defenders at the time? Or am I not remembering it correctly. I guess to people that didn’t watch Real - yeh. He has the name and reputation. Yeah, probably wasn't the best examples, sure there are better ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 5 minutes ago, madras said: Did Bayern want him on a free ? There's a pretty large gap between free and £15m tbf, and that's because both are totally unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Tbf to him. His mistakes this year have been mostly brain farts. The type he had at Spurs and earlier. That bozo side has come back in big style. I don’t think it’s a decline in terms of defensive lapses. More a return to his level. Yeah, this is true. Unfortunately, I think he is also less confident in his physical abilities too, and can't make up for some of these errors, which further compounds things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 Just now, TRon said: There's a pretty large gap between free and £15m tbf, and that's because both are totally unrealistic. Any idea what they offered? I heard 12. Saudi tax 15 isn't hard to imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 15, 2024 Share Posted May 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah, this is true. Unfortunately, I think he is also less confident in his physical abilities too, and can't make up for some of these errors, which further compounds things. His set pieces which used to look deadly also seem to be fading into distant memory. Not really sure why as age shouldn't really make a difference there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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