Jesse Lingard

[Tisd09]

Not an easy read that. I assume there will be other players going through similar issues as well ?

 

Thing is you’ll still have some come out and say stuff like “what’s he got to be depressed about” depression in general still isn’t taken as seriously as it should be and mental health in football certainly isn’t. 

 

Good on him for speaking out, the more high profile people that do the better IMO.

 

 

[Mahoneys Tache]

29 minutes ago, Tisd09 said:

Not an easy read that. I assume there will be other players going through similar issues as well ?

 

Thing is you’ll still have some come out and say stuff like “what’s he got to be depressed about” depression in general still isn’t taken as seriously as it should be and mental health in football certainly isn’t. 

 

Good on him for speaking out, the more high profile people that do the better IMO.

 

 

A close family member of mine is a household name. I spend a great deal of my time biting my tongue, including on here, to stop me getting radge on his behalf when I read or hear criticism because he’s not a fucking android who is immune to all the usual human frailties as the rest of us. Agree that his job means that he will be criticised and that’s fine, but seeing it from the other side and the pressure and expectations they are placed under has completed changed how I think about professionals in all sports. 
and no. I’m not saying who he is. 

[Tisd09]

1 hour ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

A close family member of mine is a household name. I spend a great deal of my time biting my tongue, including on here, to stop me getting radge on his behalf when I read or hear criticism because he’s not a fucking android who is immune to all the usual human frailties as the rest of us. Agree that his job means that he will be criticised and that’s fine, but seeing it from the other side and the pressure and expectations they are placed under has completed changed how I think about professionals in all sports. 
and no. I’m not saying who he is. 

I’ve seen close family members go through horrendous mental health battles and still do it’s horrible. 
 

There will be an added pressure of stardom as well ?

 

hope your family member gets the support they need ??

[Mahoneys Tache]

3 minutes ago, Tisd09 said:

I’ve seen close family members go through horrendous mental health battles and still do it’s horrible. 
 

There will be an added pressure of stardom as well ?

 

hope your family member gets the support they need ??

Thanks. He’s doing grand. It’s a lot harder than people realise though. He’s got balls of steel. 
I hope your family are getting looked after too. 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Mahoneys Tache

[PeepShow4life]

One of my dad's friends was a millionaire and hung himself. Money and fame in Lingards case, don't automatically make you happy.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Quite possible he would've done much better if he'd come here.

[Tisd09]

2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Quite possible he would've done much better if he'd come here.

Yeah that could have been the case. You would imagine Eddie would have looked after him as well.

 

Not to be I guess, would have taken him last January for sure, that being said if it were a choice between him and Murphy I’d take Lingard (if the attitude was right of course) I assume it would be if Eddie signed him anyway!

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I generally dislike the tone of criticism against him TBH, but fans will be fans I guess. 

[wormy]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I generally dislike the tone of criticism against him TBH, but fans will be fans I guess. 

 

The dislike is weird tbh. He's not everyone's cup of tea but who is? It's a strange aggression for someone who I don't see doing much more than silly dances and trying to build a brand. Such a weird argument that because he does that he obviously doesn't spend enough time 'focusing' on his career, too.

 

The ship may have sailed as far as him being a useful acquisition for us but I wish him all the best whether with Forest or anywhere else.

 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by wormy

[Nine]

5 hours ago, PeepShow4life said:

One of my dad's friends was a millionaire and hung himself. Money and fame in Lingards case, don't automatically make you happy.

It often makes you the opposite 

[Mahoneys Tache]

4 hours ago, Nine said:

It often makes you the opposite 

This. The pursuit of money is a stressful business. 

[Chicken Dancer]

This is what makes me so uncomfortable with the Harry Maguire abuse to be honest. Let's be fair, it's been pretty much bullying. He's just another bloke like us who happens to be playing football professionally. He isn't a robot, just a human being who's not been performing his job at a high level. The line has been crossed with him in my opinion.

 

I totally get that he's been largely shit for a while, but this era of being able to connect with footballers on social media is more of a curse than a blessing. I think I'd be in the minority of footballers and would not have social media if I was professional. I don't think Rodri does (may be wrong) and there will be others. It's probably a good thing if they're able to disconnect.

 

Would love it if he had a belter World Cup and scores an important goal for England to send us through or something.

[Yorkie]

2 hours ago, Chicken Dancer said:

This is what makes me so uncomfortable with the Harry Maguire abuse to be honest. Let's be fair, it's been pretty much bullying. He's just another bloke like us who happens to be playing football professionally. He isn't a robot, just a human being who's not been performing his job at a high level. The line has been crossed with him in my opinion.

 

I totally get that he's been largely shit for a while, but this era of being able to connect with footballers on social media is more of a curse than a blessing. I think I'd be in the minority of footballers and would not have social media if I was professional. I don't think Rodri does (may be wrong) and there will be others. It's probably a good thing if they're able to disconnect.

 

Would love it if he had a belter World Cup and scores an important goal for England to send us through or something.

 

Manquillo, Burn, Shelvey and Ritchie are the ones in our squad who don't have any social media. 

[huss9]

3 hours ago, Chicken Dancer said:

This is what makes me so uncomfortable with the Harry Maguire abuse to be honest. Let's be fair, it's been pretty much bullying. He's just another bloke like us who happens to be playing football professionally. He isn't a robot, just a human being who's not been performing his job at a high level. The line has been crossed with him in my opinion.

 

I totally get that he's been largely shit for a while, but this era of being able to connect with footballers on social media is more of a curse than a blessing. I think I'd be in the minority of footballers and would not have social media if I was professional. I don't think Rodri does (may be wrong) and there will be others. It's probably a good thing if they're able to disconnect.

 

Would love it if he had a belter World Cup and scores an important goal for England to send us through or something.

hence why i absolutely hate the abuse some of our players get on here.

any below par performance and its on.

[Mahoneys Tache]

3 hours ago, Chicken Dancer said:

This is what makes me so uncomfortable with the Harry Maguire abuse to be honest. Let's be fair, it's been pretty much bullying. He's just another bloke like us who happens to be playing football professionally. He isn't a robot, just a human being who's not been performing his job at a high level. The line has been crossed with him in my opinion.

 

I totally get that he's been largely shit for a while, but this era of being able to connect with footballers on social media is more of a curse than a blessing. I think I'd be in the minority of footballers and would not have social media if I was professional. I don't think Rodri does (may be wrong) and there will be others. It's probably a good thing if they're able to disconnect.

 

Would love it if he had a belter World Cup and scores an important goal for England to send us through or something.

I’ve often thought we should buy Maguire. Howe would restore him. That would make for top notch centre half competition. 

[Groundhog63]

39 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Manquillo, Burn, Shelvey and Ritchie are the ones in our squad who don't have any social media. 

BDB doesn't need social media. He just reads The News Post Leader & if anyone writes owt derogatory in the letters page he, and his family, gan round and torch ya house

[elbee909]

3 hours ago, Groundhog63 said:

BDB doesn't need social media. He just reads The News Post Leader & if anyone writes owt derogatory in the letters page he, and his family, gan round and torch ya house

 

Burn can just see what everyone's up to by standing up

[Disco]

I’ll be as guilty as anyone as chatting shit about players on here or wherever but anyone griefing players directly is an absolute stain on the game regardless of who it is or who they support. I genuinely don’t get what the aim is. Same as booing players when they’re playing for you. Absolutely wank. 
 

We seen Spurs fans booing Emerson at the weekend, imagine the state of that. Yes he’s not great but you’re 4th in the league and he’s played all the games and doesn’t give much up, the alts are Spence and Doherty and you’re carrying on like he’s the devil. Wild.

[HaydnNUFC]

2 minutes ago, Disco said:

I’ll be as guilty as anyone as chatting shit about players on here or wherever but anyone griefing players directly is an absolute stain on the game regardless of who it is or who they support. I genuinely don’t get what the aim is. Same as booing players when they’re playing for you. Absolutely wank. 
 

We seen Spurs fans booing Emerson at the weekend, imagine the state of that. Yes he’s not great but you’re 4th in the league and he’s played all the games and doesn’t give much up, the alts are Spence and Doherty and you’re carrying on like he’s the devil. Wild.

 

I fully agree with your point but Emerson Royal getting ahead of Spence is still mad imo. The lad looked quality for Forest even against PL opposition in the FA Cup. Every time I see Royal I've thought he's looked absolutely terrible.