Bruno Guimarães

[St1pe]

I feel like pretty much all of us have

said this for about a year now but having a player capable of playing dm so Bruno can effect the game further up the pitch has been huge for us. 

[PauloGeordio]

52 minutes ago, St1pe said:

I feel like pretty much all of us have

said this for about a year now but having a player capable of playing dm so Bruno can effect the game further up the pitch has been huge for us. 

He can find his way through the block. He draws defence and creates space. His passes are sublime. Not a complaint but if he could hit the target more! 

 

 

Edited January 16 by PauloGeordio

[Menace]

For someone who isn't very fast he sure is everywhere on the pitch. We genuinely have the best midfield in the Prem.

 

 

Edited January 16 by Menace

[PauloGeordio]

16 minutes ago, Menace said:

For someone who isn't very fast he sure is everywhere on the pitch. We genuinely have the best midfield in the Prem.

 

 

 

We do! 

[Miercoles]

8 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

It's an outrageous pass.

 

He didn't have much time to see it and then play it through.

 

There was a lot of talk of in the match thread about it being bad defending from Wolves and such an easy goal.

 

I thought it was absolutely surgical from Bruno.

 

 

 

 

I think it's both right? Like leaving the center forward unmarked on the penalty spot is ridiculous, but it's also a great pass to get to him there.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

8 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

It was and he is basically our only player capable of playing cute through balls like that. 
 

However, the CB’s are miles apart, all out of line and their new signing. Who unfortunately for him, was superb otherwise. Was about 2 yards deeper, playing him on. 
 

Two things can be true at the same time. 

In fairness that downplays Isak's skill for finding space, he was left in similar acres of space by Arsenal's CB pairing, who are generally considered pretty decent. At what point does Isak's movement get the credit, rather than it always being shite defending?

[PauloGeordio]

1 minute ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

In fairness that downplays Isak's skill for finding space, he was left in similar acres of space by Arsenal's CB pairing, who are generally considered pretty decent. At what point does Isak's movement get the credit, rather than it always being shite defending?

The ninja movements? 🥷

[Lush Vlad]

1 hour ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

In fairness that downplays Isak's skill for finding space, he was left in similar acres of space by Arsenal's CB pairing, who are generally considered pretty decent. At what point does Isak's movement get the credit, rather than it always being shite defending?

Which time at Arsenal? It was usually great movement from Isak most the night. They didn’t know whether to drop or push. They were shitting themselves all the while. As he always does. He fakes to drop short and then spins behind and vice versa. 
 

His goal was due to Gabriel and Saliba getting caught up with trying to battle our twin towers from the Pardew set piece  Then clever from Isak to pull off onto Odegaard and use that little shove. Which I think he has done a few times with great success. Wolves header 2 seasons ago. West Ham away last season/season before. Whenever it was he got a brace. 

 

For this. Isak himself looked surprised at the space he had. You could have driven a bus through the gap between them and to make it worse. One of their players just sprints out to close someone down and then stops realising he’s vacated an already massive space.
Along with how deep Agbadou was. It was criminal defending. 
 

You can appreciate Isak’s ability to find space and the lovely through ball. Whilst also saying how shite they defended it. 
 

Imagine this place if Cunha did that pass to Strand-Larsen up the other end and we defended it the like that. I mean, Strand-Larsen would miss. But that’s beside the point  

 

 

Edited January 16 by Lush Vlad

[John P]

4 hours ago, Menace said:

For someone who isn't very fast he sure is everywhere on the pitch. We genuinely have the best midfield in the Prem.

 

 

 

I think he's quick over the first 5-10 yards, he often bursts away from players with the ball. It's just the longer distance recovery runs where he looks pretty slow

[Conjo]

As good as the pass/assist for the goal was, personally I enjoyed his earlier through ball to Isak on the left wing more. Outrageously well timed, threaded, curved pass.

[PauloGeordio]

 

[Lush Vlad]

Their midfield has been like kryptonite to him. Much sharper and quicker than him. Shithouse fouls when he does get by them. Then quite a few borderline ones where the ref doesn’t buy his dive. 

Not at the races today despite his goal. But then again, not many have been. 

[Newcastle Fan]

They had his number today, awful game.

[Joe1984]

Just now, Newcastle Fan said:

They had his number today, awful game.

They had everyone's number today.

[ExiledGeordie]

Just now, Newcastle Fan said:

They had his number today, awful game.

Aye like many, terrible 

[KaKa]

Really frustrating that he doesn't adjust to teams selling out to press us so aggressively.

 

Releasing the ball quicker would have had us at them so much more often and allowed us to settle into a better rhythm.

 

So annoying.

[Lush Vlad]

10 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Really frustrating that he doesn't adjust to teams selling out to press us so aggressively.

 

Releasing the ball quicker would have had us at them so much more often and allowed us to settle into a better rhythm.

 

So annoying.

Might be well off. But his awkward way of kicking a ball always seems like an early, crisp pass is never really his game. 
 

Like he needs those few touches to work the angle he wants. Then he shifts it. 
 

Not even a major issue. As he is great at it. But in games like today. He properly got found out. They were too athletic for him and he couldn’t usually play round them with the extra touches to create space. When he could, they fouled him  

[KaKa]

3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Might be well off. But his awkward way of kicking a ball always seems like an early, crisp pass is never really his game. 
 

Like he needs those few touches to work the angle he wants. Then he shifts it. 
 

Not even a major issue. As he is great at it. But in games like today. He properly got found out. They were too athletic for him and he couldn’t usually play round them with the extra touches to create space. When he could, they fouled him  

 

It's just how he plays really.

 

I thought he should have just stayed a bit further up, and stop dropping in along Tonali.

 

It was bringing more bodies deeper and inviting more pressure.

[Lush Vlad]

8 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

It's just how he plays really.

 

I thought he should have just stayed a bit further up, and stop dropping in along Tonali.

 

It was bringing more bodies deeper and inviting more pressure.

Yeah. May have meant we were overrun at times. But when he was making those runs beyond and in the channels. He was actually causing a few problems. 

By problems. I mean the odd positive pass received and finding space. We didn’t really create anything of note from  open play all game. 

[TRon]

22 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Might be well off. But his awkward way of kicking a ball always seems like an early, crisp pass is never really his game. 
 

Like he needs those few touches to work the angle he wants. Then he shifts it. 
 

Not even a major issue. As he is great at it. But in games like today. He properly got found out. They were too athletic for him and he couldn’t usually play round them with the extra touches to create space. When he could, they fouled him  

 

 

It's a difficult one, because the players who do have the athleticism like Murphy for example, don't have the touch or technique to hold it or pass out of trouble. Thought Bruno was sloppy today, but he is usually one of our best players as far as press resistance goes.

[pubteam]

I think sometimes when Bruno gets pressed off the ball he feels he needs to prove something. As other have said we are better leaving him upfield where he can be adventurous without losing the ball and putting us in immediate danger, his little dinks and flicks are his trademark, but he can't use them as readily when he's so deep.

[PauloGeordio]

 

[Thumbheed]

2 hours ago, KaKa said:

Really frustrating that he doesn't adjust to teams selling out to press us so aggressively.

 

Releasing the ball quicker would have had us at them so much more often and allowed us to settle into a better rhythm.

 

So annoying.

 

I'm mean in fairness, his outstanding quality is his ability to avoid the press and progress, so it'll be practically muscle memory at this point.

 

I'm not sure there's a top player in the world who would admit, midgame that an opponent is getting the better of them so they need to do something different. Just do what you do best - better. On this occasion his opponents got the better of him. 

 

Rare off day. 

 

 

Edited January 18 by Thumbheed

[Tsunami]

Awful decision making for their second. He’d just scored when we didn’t deserve to be level and instead of making sure we go in level and play a simple ball he let himself get dispossessed in front goal. Not saying we’d have won but it was a turning point.

[Lush Vlad]

4 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

Awful decision making for their second. He’d just scored when we didn’t deserve to be level and instead of making sure we go in level and play a simple ball he let himself get dispossessed in front goal. Not saying we’d have won but it was a turning point.

Yeah. Getting into half time level would have felt like a robbery. But something to build on. As the captain and one of our best players. It was braindead from him. 
 

I still think we could have played longer at times though. Constantly playing ourselves into trouble from the back and could have just missed Bruno out altogether in that passage of play.