Wolfcastle Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 We haven't been as good as they are now since 1991 in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, TeddySAFC said: I'm not really sure how you can be deemed a reject if you haven't played in that division. If you are deeming them rejects because they didn't play senior games for Prem sides at the respective ages of some of the players in question, You need to look at the bigger picture. You can deem someone a reject at the back end of his career having never made it at that level or someone who was shunted around a variety of sides in that division without ever doing it, Ballard is 23, Clarke is 21. Neil, Patterson and Stewart have never been part of a Premiership club, so how can they be Premiership rejects, or are you omitting them from your list of 'all of your best players are Premiership rejects'? You keep making misguided, ill-judged, daft and petulant snipes at anything and everything Sunderland related, It gives you a lack of credence to any ongoing debate. Of course they have been rejected by their premiership clubs. You don't let players go for peanuts if you think they're good enough. Yeah I agree shouldn't have said all. As for the other stuff, what else am I misguided on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sima said: A lot of people probably wrote off some of Brentford's players when they got promoted. If the mackems do get promoted, they'll have done it on merit and the likes of Patterson, Clarke, Roberts and Stewart do have a decent ceiling and could be lower-end Premier League players. If they do, then we can have that conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Ivan Toney's not doing too bad for a Premier League reject. Same for Kevin Mbabu and Mitrovic Just because a player doesn't make the grade at the time doesn't mean they have no future at that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Of course they have been rejected by their premiership clubs. You don't let players go for peanuts if you think they're good enough. Yeah I agree shouldn't have said all. As for the other stuff, what else am I misguided on? You are comparing apples and oranges man, Just because a player isn't breaking into Arsenal or Spurs first team at 20 years old, It doesn't just instantly make them a Premiership reject, Are you that naive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, TeddySAFC said: You are comparing apples and oranges man, Just because a player isn't breaking into Arsenal or Spurs first team at 20 years old, It doesn't just instantly make them a Premiership reject, Are you that naive? No I think it's you being niave thinking they are good enough. Come back when/if you get to the premier league and they are performing at that level. By the way I just checked my original post and I didn't say 'all' either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Ivan Toney's not doing too bad for a Premier League reject. Same for Kevin Mbabu and Mitrovic Just because a player doesn't make the grade at the time doesn't mean they have no future at that level. Mbabu has been tragic tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Ivan Toney's not doing too bad for a Premier League reject. Same for Kevin Mbabu and Mitrovic Just because a player doesn't make the grade at the time doesn't mean they have no future at that level. Mitrovic went for well over 20 million and to another Premier League club when he was actually sold. Toney I totally agree, but was probably Rafa's biggest error of judgement in his time here. Mbabu has been shocking for Fulham. As I said to the mackem, let's come back to the conversation if/when they are playing Premier League football. Edited January 23, 2023 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Toney I totally agree, but was probably Rafa's biggest error of judgement in his time here. Was it though? I'm sure I read that Toney by his own admission wasn't good enough and wasn't making the grade, and needed to be kicked out to buck his ideas up. If he'd stayed he'd not have progressed to become the player he is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Was it though? I'm sure I read that Toney by his own admission wasn't good enough and wasn't making the grade, and needed to be kicked out to buck his ideas up. If he'd stayed he'd not have progressed to become the player he is now. Yeah maybe, still think a manager like Howe would have played it differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Mitrovic went for well over 20 million and to another Premier League club when he was actually sold. Toney I totally agree, but was probably Rafa's biggest error of judgement in his time here. Mbabu has been shocking for Fulham. As I said to the mackem, let's come back to the conversation if/when they are playing Premier League football. Toney himself said he wasn't ready at the time he was released and dropping down helped make him into a PL player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, loki679 said: Toney himself said he wasn't ready at the time he was released and dropping down helped make him into a PL player. Toney said he was sulking about keep getting loaned out and realises now it was the right thing to do. He never said he wasn't ready, just that his attitude was wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, et tu brute said: Toney said he was sulking about keep getting loaned out and realises now it was the right thing to do. He never said he wasn't ready, just that his attitude was wrong. Aye, and getting rid of him sorted out his attitude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Boon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Ivan Toney's not doing too bad for a Premier League reject. Same for Kevin Mbabu and Mitrovic Just because a player doesn't make the grade at the time doesn't mean they have no future at that level. Beardsley - Man United reject did all right, no! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, loki679 said: Aye, and getting rid of him sorted out his attitude Do you think that would have happened if Howe was manager though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Do you think that would have happened if Howe was manager though? Not after Howe stabbed him and ran off with that lass from Howden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, OCOCOL said: Where does the gravy /bisto "insult" come from? No idea, but considering Sunderland is routinely in the top 3 for most obese cities/towns in England, it's funny. Also, there's an absolutel fat arse around the corner that sits outside his house with a measure jug of gravy on summer days. He supports Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Another Prem reject signed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said: Another Prem reject signed Not our problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said: Another Prem reject signed Yep that's your level now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said: Another Prem reject signed That should guarantee you don't drop back into the 3rd division for a third time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 With 1st and 2nd already secured in that league, it really is a lottery who will grab the final place. There are about 8 teams in contention and it could be any one of them as none of them can get any consistency. I can easily see this lot sneaking in through the back door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Two threads about Dawn from Look North. Well done Dawn you've really upset those SMBs. https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/look-north.1598662/ https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/nee-look-north-thread.1598654/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Mad how misogynistic that place is, yet they claim to be fewmin rights campaigners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 They're buzzing about that new lad they've just signed, looks like he's not played a senior game of football yet and he's 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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