Nine Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Notice how a pre season training exercise has ending up in a Shelvey debate Says all you need to know really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:02, Ikon said: Aye of course mate. I think he has some good attributes but he will always be too limited. Looking better than Hendrick and Colback doesn’t make a footballer imo. Expand Absolutely, he lacks in too many key areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:02, Jaqen said: It's basically a pre season training excercise in ridiculous heat with a lineup that would never be fielded in the league. Sometime I wish pre season friendlies just weren't televised, people always read too much into them. Expand Such a good point. Actually beginning to think it's a bad idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:02, Jaqen said: It's basically a pre season training excercise in ridiculous heat with a lineup that would never be fielded in the league. Sometime I wish pre season friendlies just weren't televised, people always read too much into them. Expand It’s definitely not something fans should watch. And I’ll have watched 4 or 5 by the time the season starts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 15:58, The Prophet said: He definetly improved but statistically at least, he was a weak link in the midfield. Expand He just slows the game too much and his lack of mobility is highly noticeable also. As I keep saying we need another midfielder in there. Personally I think Paqueta is a no brainer. We really do need that position, right winger and striker to really move forward. Just have to wait and see what happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:05, et tu brute said: He just slows the game too much and his lack of mobility is highly noticeable also. As I keep saying we need another midfielder in there. Personally I think Paqueta is a no brainer. We really do need that position, right winger and striker to really move forward. Just have to wait and see what happens Expand Paqueta wouldnt be playing in Shelveys position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:06, Nine said: Paqueta wouldnt be playing in Shelveys position. Expand Did I say he would? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Not this again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:07, et tu brute said: Did I say he would? Expand Well I dont see you're point then? We sign Paqueta and Shelvey remains in the same position, second choice to Bruno or starting if Bruno is pushed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:05, et tu brute said: He just slows the game too much and his lack of mobility is highly noticeable also. As I keep saying we need another midfielder in there. Personally I think Paqueta is a no brainer. We really do need that position, right winger and striker to really move forward. Just have to wait and see what happens Expand I don't anticipate Shelvey starting this year. Think another midfielder comes in to play alongside Joe and Bruno, and Shelvey will play a back up role to Bruno in that deeper position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:07, Rich said: Not this again Expand You know ... I wish Paqueta and Bruno hated each other's guts and there's no chance he would ever join us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:08, Nine said: Well I dont see you're point then? We sign Paqueta and Shelvey remains in the same position, second choice to Bruno or starting if Bruno is pushed up. Expand Nope Bruno plays in that position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:02, Jaqen said: It's basically a pre season training excercise in ridiculous heat with a lineup that would never be fielded in the league. Sometime I wish pre season friendlies just weren't televised, people always read too much into them. Expand Well you can glean some patterns repeating themselves, like the bad players still looking pretty useless, so you can draw some conclusions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) On 18/07/2022 at 16:10, et tu brute said: Nope Bruno plays in that position Expand ?? So you identified that Shelvey is a weak link then suggested that we sign Paqueta to fix that which does nothing to strengthen the position that Shelvey plays in? Im lost Edited July 18, 2022 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:08, Nine said: Well I dont see you're point then? We sign Paqueta and Shelvey remains in the same position, second choice to Bruno or starting if Bruno is pushed up. Expand Do you see a difference in these starting midfields? Beg Jow Bruno Shelvey vs. Paqueta Beg Jow Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:13, loki679 said: Do you see a difference in these starting midfields? Beg Jow Bruno Willock vs. Paqueta Beg Jow Bruno Expand FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 As for Shelvey, looks fit and some cracking passes, give him 5 yards of space and he’ll be fine. Sure, he needs an upgrade but we’ve got more pressing needs. I hope we go full strength for 70 mins next game. We need to know what that looks like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) On 18/07/2022 at 16:13, loki679 said: Do you see a difference in these starting midfields? Beg Jow Bruno Shelvey vs. Paqueta Beg Jow Bruno Expand Obviously but you're missing the point, you've got Paqueta and Brunos positions backwards on that. So if we sign Paqeuta that still means that Shelvey is second choice to Bruno.. so again - how does signing Paqueta upgrade the position that Shelvey plays in? The clamour for Paqueta has gone into overdrive just lately. Edited July 18, 2022 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:12, Nine said: ?? So you identified that Shelvey is a weak link then suggested that we sign Paqueta to fix it while that does nothing to strengthen the position that Shelvey plays in? Im lost Expand Signing Paqueta, dropping Shelvey and playing Bruno there is fixing the problem. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) On 18/07/2022 at 16:18, et tu brute said: Signing Paqueta, dropping Shelvey and playing Bruno there is fixing the problem. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. Expand Bruno will be starting over Shelvey there most of the time anyway though, thats my point. Its his natural position. Edited July 18, 2022 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:17, Nine said: Obviously but you're missing the point, you've got Paqueta and Brunos positions backwards on that. So if we sign Paqeuta that still means that Shelvey is second choice to Bruno.. so again - how does signing Paqueta upgrade the position that Shelvey plays in? Expand Paqueta is an attacking midfielder, Bruno sits in the pivot. It upgrades the position Shelvey plays in because we have better players playing there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:20, Nine said: Bruno will be starting over Shelvey there anyway though, thats my point. Its his natural position. Expand He didn't last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:20, Nine said: Bruno will be starting over Shelvey there most of the time anyway though, thats my point. Its his natural position. Expand When Shelvey was fit he was in the team last year that's my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:20, loki679 said: Paqueta is an attacking midfielder, Bruno sits in the pivot. It upgrades the position Shelvey plays in because we have better players playing there. Expand But Shelvey is still second choice to Bruno who would be starting there anyway? Bruno wont be starting as one of the front 2 while Joe and Willock are fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 16:18, et tu brute said: Signing Paqueta, dropping Shelvey and playing Bruno there is fixing the problem. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. Expand Definitely our best option to strengthen and take us up a level, if that deal is possible we need to try and make it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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