andycap Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 1 minute ago, Fak said: What about Cordone? Canny but very much the same after his spurt of early promise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Just now, andycap said: Canny but very much the same after his spurt of early promise. Thankfully we had the experience of Kevin Gallacher to chip in when needed that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Bassedas was a beast on champ manager 01/02 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Just now, Fak said: Thankfully we had the experience of Kevin Gallacher to chip in when needed that season. Loved kev like when we signed him thought he was finished, reminds me of lovenkrands a bit nippy and surprisingly good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Steven Taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 37 minutes ago, andycap said: Loved kev like when we signed him thought he was finished, reminds me of lovenkrands a bit nippy and surprisingly good. He has basically signed as Shearers pal but he did a good job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 10 hours ago, Kimbo said: Scholes flaws showed when he didn’t have the ball, with it he was up there with the likes of Xavi (not Iniesta, that’s another step IMO). It's a hard one, arguments can be made for either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 3 hours ago, Jonas said: Was the best player in the country as voted for by his fellow pros two seasons after he left us. They were wrong. Dwight Yorke should have got it that year . Both he and Bergkamp had more goals and more assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 4 hours ago, jack j said: Ben Arfa is overrated on here Ben Arfa provided hope and dreams at a time when there was nothing to be hopeful about. Ben Arfa in a different era may have been overrated. Ben Arfa in the time he was here was everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 1 hour ago, andycap said: Canny but very much the same after his spurt of early promise. Gets bonus points for this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2847754/amp/Ex-Newcastle-flop-Daniel-Cordone-impersonates-Claudio-Caniggia-Argentina-Masters-friendly-against-Brazil.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 3 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: I decided to erase all memories of 2000/01 from my head so I cannot recall He did well in the Intertoto Cup and played canny first game at Chelsea but we had better players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 2 hours ago, Mountain said: It's a hard one, arguments can be made for either. Xavi still the best midfielder I’ve seen. Absolute genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 3 hours ago, Jonas said: Sir Bobby didn't think so. And he wasn't. Bobby said in an interview once that Harper was paid more than he probably should have been because he was a reliable number 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 16 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Xavi still the best midfielder I’ve seen. Absolute genius. Doubt we'll ever see a better one tbh. Same with Messi, be absolutely incredible to see anyone even get close to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 4 hours ago, jack j said: He is the 3rd highest ever appearance maker in our whole history. He could have left numerous times before he did. He was probably too loyal for his own good if anything Makes me laugh when people say this about Given when you think of how many fucking wankers who couldnt give a toss have played for us over the years And yet he chose to leave us when we were truly in the clarts, “loves the club” though. Funny how he’s raised his head now we’ve become good again, didn’t show his face before the takeover after he’d retired though…….. No wonder he got that many appearances when his competition was clowns like Tony Caig, John Karelse and Steve ‘timber’ Harper during his time here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 55 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Xavi still the best midfielder I’ve seen. Absolute genius. He dictated the tempo of games more than anyone I can remember. Iniesta was a better dribbler and often looked easier on the eye but he wasn't the conductor of the ochestra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 8 hours ago, jack j said: Ben Arfa is overrated on here I think he was better than Ginola, who was overrated just because of the looks and aura. He got Players' Player of the Year at Spurs off 3 goals and 10 assists, which sound like Nobby Solano numbers, with Nobby also tracking back and making tackles. Murph got more than that last season. Stats don't tell everything of course, but they are pretty good for attacking players with highly questionable defensive contributions. Robert was more consistent, esp. pre Souness, and is above both Ginola and Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 2 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: He did well in the Intertoto Cup and played canny first game at Chelsea but we had better players. Bassedas was ok in fairness. Somehow Mick Wadsworth became the hate sponge for Robson wasting millions during that period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 1 hour ago, Mountain said: He dictated the tempo of games more than anyone I can remember. Iniesta was a better dribbler and often looked easier on the eye but he wasn't the conductor of the ochestra. It would be Iniesta for me, but that must have been a hell of a dilemma for Barcelona supporters during that period arguing over who was better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 fwiw, I rate Scholes and Gerrard way up there as #8s, but I think the deep lying playmaker "quarterbacking" thing they did was massively overrated, especially for Gerrard before the famous "slip". Tiki taka (i.e., keep the ball with super high percentage passes) and gegenpressing (don't give anyone time in midfield) have destroyed the deep lying playmaker midfield role. That mantle has been passed to fullbacks like Trent, keepers like Ederson and CHs like Schar. A great midfield passer now is a throughball merchant, like our own Bruno, something I think he is underrated for. In the past, your throughball man might have been a second striker like Beardsley or Bergkamp. Probably unfair to talk about peak Pep Barca without mentioning Busquets who could pass but was certainly was not a deep lying playmaker. Like Kante, and Yaya Toure, highly overspec'ed as a footballer for the DM role. This was shown best by Man City when they would push Toure up to second striker for the final 20 minutes, including at SJP in the Aguueerrrooo! season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 11 hours ago, LFEE said: Pope > Given Unless we are judging GK’s that never command their box. Distribution was poor too. Good shot stopper but Pope better… one v one I’d say the only thing he was better than Pope at. Given was probably at one time the best keeper in the Premier League at shot stopping, maybe Seaman asked he was the best. I’d say the best in the world but you had Kahn, Buffon, and Casillas all playing at the same time. Given could be subjected to a 1 on 1 10 times a match and win it 9 times out of 10. His biggest flaw was his in-ability to come off his line to gather the ball from corners and free-kicks. As a shot stopper though, there were few better than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 10 hours ago, Ronaldo said: Xavi still the best midfielder I’ve seen. Absolute genius. I love Iniesta but I agree, looked like he was going through people like they're not there at times but he couldn't control a game in the way Xavi could almost by himself. I don't find it a coincidence that they still haven't won the CL since his retirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 Pope over Given is fucking outrageous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 This thread is pissing me off so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 Vidic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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