Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: Declan Rice - Already been mentioned before. Good, solid midfielder but plenty just like him in Europe. Jack Wilshere - Honestly had no idea what he was good at yet and almost always injured but inexplicably made every England squad under Hodgson. Wilshire’s game against Barca was one of the best I’ve ever seen from an English mid, and this was prime Xavi/Iniesta/Busquets. The injuries and lifestyle killed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Yup, we had a few like that who would suddenly reincarnate as Torres whenever they played us. Smells like a new thread to me....."crap players who turned it up to 12 when against us" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 45 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Makalele was incredible Imo. And essentially made a position. Could the same not be argued for Carlos and Cafu? They were basically pioneers for the way modern wing backs play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Could the same not be argued for Carlos and Cafu? They were basically pioneers for the way modern wing backs play Yes imo, players who’ve innovated a position before it’s time. Could argue Nueuer as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Like how someone like Ricardo Fuller would become Drogba against us randomly Vidic was widely considered to be one of the best CB's in premier league history, but he was like bambi on ice against Torres. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, ManDoon said: He definitely stat padded I’ll give you that Right when I leave this thread, you reel me back in. Fuck off. First real legend of the game. The king of football. Show some respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Yes imo, players who’ve innovated a position before it’s time. Could argue Nueuer as well. They'd be awesome now, and were in the mid-90's but there was a long time in between where they would have been considered liabilities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Akways reminder Martins having plenty of joy v Vidic, could be mistaken though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Tricky thread and topic because there are so many players that could be argued were good, even close to great and yet you don't like them because of x or y and it's all just opinion anyway. Couple more: Mendieta - memory might be playing tricks, quite good at Lazio but can't recall him doing anything for Boro in the 90s and was a Spanish international for ages Marcelo - I don't know if he's "overrated" per se but I think he's absolutely terrible. Positionally a joke, runs around like fucking Benny Hill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 52 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: They call him one of the best left-backs ever - but is Ashley Cole really on the same level as Maldini? Perhaps one of those ones I didn't appreciate enough during his playing career Different sort of full-back but Ashley Cole was world class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Froggy said: Vidic was widely considered to be one of the best CB's in premier league history, but he was like bambi on ice against Torres. Yeah that was crazy, Torres seemed to have him completely on skates, it was bizzare. He just couldn’t cope with him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Yes imo, players who’ve innovated a position before it’s time. Could argue Nueuer as well. Trent Alexander-Arnold plays in a way I've never ever seen from a right back. Could be unique to him or something that's brought in by other teams, but he's basically a David Beckham who plays right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Flip said: Right when I leave this thread, you reel me back in. Fuck off. First real legend of the game. The king of football. Show some respect. Hahahaha. Pele would claim a goal against his own grandkids tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Yup, we had a few like that who would suddenly reincarnate as Torres whenever they played us. Fucking Andy Johnson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Fucking Andy Johnson. God yeah, forgot about that prick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Hahahaha. Pele would claim a goal against his own grandkids tbf All the Brazilians were at it. Can't be trusted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: Tricky thread and topic because there are so many players that could be argued were good, even close to great and yet you don't like them because of x or y and it's all just opinion anyway. Couple more: Mendieta - memory might be playing tricks, quite good at Lazio but can't recall him doing anything for Boro in the 90s and was a Spanish international for ages Marcelo - I don't know if he's "overrated" per se but I think he's absolutely terrible. Positionally a joke, runs around like fucking Benny Hill Won the champions league twice though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Froggy said: All the Brazilians were at it. Can't be trusted. Romario was so egregious for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, Flip said: Right when I leave this thread, you reel me back in. Fuck off. First real legend of the game. The king of football. Show some respect. Nah.... Obviously good at internationals, but then so was Ali Daei. (yes i know it's not a fair comparison) However Peles club career (not goals scored) is pretty feeble even by 70's standards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 McManaman. Not a great player, definitely overrated at least by the English media. Part of that whole spice boys era at Liverpool. Somehow got a move to Madrid, the skinny floppy haired sod. Shit pundit an aal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, LionOfGosforth said: McManaman. Not a great player, definitely overrated at least by the English media. Part of that whole spice boys era at Liverpool. Somehow got a move to Madrid, the skinny floppy haired sod. Shit pundit an aal. Massively agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Won the champions league twice though. Yeah was more a comment on watching him every week at Boro and wondering how/why he was in the Spanish team constantly and not seeing it. I'm sure his trophy haul stands against many though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: Tricky thread and topic because there are so many players that could be argued were good, even close to great and yet you don't like them because of x or y and it's all just opinion anyway. Couple more: Mendieta - memory might be playing tricks, quite good at Lazio but can't recall him doing anything for Boro in the 90s and was a Spanish international for ages Marcelo - I don't know if he's "overrated" per se but I think he's absolutely terrible. Positionally a joke, runs around like fucking Benny Hill Mendieta turned to garbage after leaving Valencia....probably the most Benitez midfielder in existence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 33 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: Many will disagree on this one. Bergkamp. I hated him. No personality, like an automaton. Yeah, he was good, reallygood and maybe even great at times but feted to the point it made me puke. Got so sick of seeing that goal he scored against us when he made a mug of Dabizas. Funny thing is, I loved that 2000ish Dutch team. Kluivert, Overmars, Stam, Reiziger, Seedorf, Davids etc My favourite non NUFC Premier League Player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, Colos Short and Curlies said: My favourite non NUFC Premier League Player. Damn, I definitely am not getting many likes on this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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