Stottie Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, jack j said: Paul Scholes Older Scholes as a deep lying playmaker hitting pretty passes but liable to get booked every time he tackled someone - yes. Young Scholes as an AM or box to box, hell no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) Every player who was getting in ahead of Rob Lee for England from '94 to '97. Edited May 9, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 I'm amazed Modric, Salah, Mane etc. being mentioned - these players have been the best in sides winning everything for years I've always felt Ousmane Dembélé has never been worth the money paid for him. Every time I've seen he's looked quick and that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfmk2 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Jermaine Jenas. The player and the gobshite on the telly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Well that's my afternoon's entertainment sorted. @Flip Ain’t got no time for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Petr Cech. Helped by having a mean defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Not his fault either, he was really good, I really rated him and he probably would have worked in that system for England, but he's become the silver bullet that would have solved all of the problems with the Golden Generation, which is just daft. Yeah very good player but he became This like mythical Iniesta/Busquets hybrid who was the greatest ever midfielder we’ve produced. Very odd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Petr Cech. Helped by having a mean defence. Agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, wfmk2 said: Jermaine Jenas. The player and the gobshite on the telly. Grinds my gears having to hear him analyse players and go on about workrate, determination and taking responsibility when he so often had none of that here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Wullie said: Little apart from the most assists in the PL over the last two seasons. Definitely this - if anything Kane goes deep at times, in particular for England, and has shown some excellent vision and passing. The assists for Son etc. are huge. Only thing I would say about Kane is he tends to score a lot of goals that aren't very dramatic. Shearer/Augero/Henry etc. would score lots of outrageous goals, where always feel Kane is king of "right place right time" tap/nod in goals than your memorable beast types. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Petr Cech. Helped by having a mean defence. Ah yeah, the famous 'uncharacteristic mistake from Petr Cech' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Definitely agree with neymar. Never got the Walcott love either tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Oh. Modric's way better than Alonso (specifically) and Scholes. I was literally just about to say Alonso was over-rated. Simply not in the class of Modric. Alonso was never an athletic player and he couldn't handle a stretched game. That's why he often played with hard-runners alongside him to compensate (Mascherano, Khedira, Modric). You could also press Alonso out of a game. He had slow feet. He wanted a little bit of time on the ball and couldn't jink his way out of a high press. When he was swapped with Kroos I immediately saw the improvement in the teams fluidity. Kroos could play every pass Alonso could but he was more athletic (at the time) and could move around the pitch more and he was better when pressed. Having spent some time at #10 his close control, agility, shift of balance was better. Modric has better mobility at 36 than Alonso had at 25. Obviously way better feet. I say this as someone that has followed Real Madrid semi-closely for 15-years. The Scholes thing is not an argument either. Scholes never turned up for England. Put any Scholes in Croatia 2018 and they don't get out the group. I can’t agree he’s better than Alonso. Alonso had every attribute you could want from a midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Outside of Newcastle - Michael Owen. We know the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Think I'll just drop this then log off. Cristiano Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Fair enough, I think I can apply that to Mane, but I think Salah is able to do it any set up. Mane is a very Liverpool system player I’d say Agree completely about Sarah he seems to have a lot of attributes. He has the discipline and work rate to play in Klopp’s system, but has the touch, dribbling, movement, to play for any coach. He’s great at crossing when he gets the chance can go inside or outside too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Ah yeah, the famous 'uncharacteristic mistake from Petr Cech' From memory there was a pretty big difference pre and post head injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Kovacic and Barkley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Think I'll just drop this then log off. Cristiano Ronaldo I’m with you. One of the best Goalscorers ever, no doubt. Best players? Not for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, triggs said: From memory there was a pretty big difference pre and post head injury? I think so yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Buffon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) Balotelli, Owen, Pogba - was proven right on all three predictions, all sizzle and no steak also Beckham, great at a right-footed free-kick/cross (same skill) and diving and scamming instead of having to beat somebody (which he couldn't) Edited May 9, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 It's redundant now because he ended up living up to the hype, but Ibrahimovic really was overrated up until about 2011-ish I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 DeBruyne He’s world class but I’ve seen people talking about him being better than the likes of Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard etc which I don’t think he is. Thiago is better aswell imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Ribery, is the ultimate for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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