Kanj Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 tactics questions that ties in to player recruitment... - What would it take in terms of new players for us to be able to have a non super low possession team with a 3 man center back system, what formation and players do we need to do that? Keeping in mind we keep the best of what we have and upgrade? - same question as above but what would it take to go back to a 4 man defense and who of the current crop would fit into The best one? What midfielders and players elsewhere stay on to make this work? Have my own opinions but want to hear some from here. Wolves play this weird kinda 3-4-3 that would work with our players imo. Good luck on getting Bruce to coach it though Wolves have some top quality wing backs IMO and 2 central midfielders who are well rounded - box to box, pick a pass, killer ball, score goals. then of course 3 forwards who can do it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3-4-3 Dubvraka Schar Lascelles Lejeune New RWB New CM Longstaff New LWB Almiron* Joelinton* Saint-Max* *depending on these 3 actually learning to score goals consistently, or it won't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4-2-3-1 Dubvraka New RB Schar/Lejeune New CB/Lascelles New LB New CM/Longstaff New CM New RW/Joelinton New 10/Almiron Saint Maximin New CF/Joelinton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Replace Diame (Hayden can't do this and never has been able to). It's a myth we've not been able to play 4 at the back. We looked fine in 2017-2018 with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 xLiaaamx[/member] I think our team lacks power and pace in many areas of the pitch. To your point, particularly in the spine - a proper box-to-box CM who doesn't just win the ball and pass it backwards like Hayden. Our fullbacks are really wingbacks, and when we move to a 4 man defense I think we will find them severely exposed. New fullbacks with pace, positioning and power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Midfield is our major weakness, IMO. I think our front 3 of Joe, Miggy and ASM would be more likely to succeed with a more consistent midfield pairing behind them. Longstaff is never fully fit for extended periods. Shelvey is only good for random wonder passes/shots, Hayden lacks tenacity and Matty is too young, tiny and inexperienced. I'd sell Hayden and Shelvey and bring in an industrious forward thinking but defensively sound box to box guy and more athletic guy who can pull the strings. The Longstaffs are more suitable to deputy duties, IMO. The key being that this new midfield two would start a majority of the games together and bring more consistency to the middle of the pitch. A strong consistent midfield would make the whole team look better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I think it's quite clear we need 2-3 dynamic center midfielders capable of doing the business on both ends of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I think it's quite clear we need 2-3 dynamic center midfielders capable of doing the business on both ends of the pitch. That’s really not easy to get Would argue another winger and a new striker would be easier and make more impact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Watching the Leeds documentary now. Jealous to see how the people at the top care about their club. To the point of being in tears at not being able to sign players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Watching the Leeds documentary now. Jealous to see how the people at the top care about their club. To the point of being in tears at not being able to sign players. The Man City one is gutting as well, they’re so professional and desperate for success. It’s appalling to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I think it's quite clear we need 2-3 dynamic center midfielders capable of doing the business on both ends of the pitch. This has been the case for at least a decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Not sure what thread to start this in, but there will be a load of 20 years since... bullshit going on over the next few days. For me though it's 25 years since: Sale of Andy Cole The summer of Ferdinand, Ginola, Barton, Hislop Quarter of a fucking century since it seemed like we were going to be the real deal. Does not feel that long ago. It's also 25 years since the Blur vs Oasis battle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The Cole sale day was so dramatic, stopped my school classes to listen to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The Cole sale day was so dramatic, stopped my school classes to listen to it I was 14 and remember my Dad telling me. I can't see something being as dramatic in football transfers again, simply as social media and 24 hour rumours etc take the surprise element away. The first people will have heard of this would have been a Metro Radio news bulletin or maybe even walking past a Chronical seller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The Cole sale day was so dramatic, stopped my school classes to listen to it I was 14 and remember my Dad telling me. I can't see something being as dramatic in football transfers again, simply as social media and 24 hour rumours etc take the surprise element away. The first people will have heard of this would have been a Metro Radio news bulletin or maybe even walking past a Chronical seller Same when we signed Shearer, Dad faxed me the page from the Chronicle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The Cole sale day was so dramatic, stopped my school classes to listen to it I was 14 and remember my Dad telling me. I can't see something being as dramatic in football transfers again, simply as social media and 24 hour rumours etc take the surprise element away. The first people will have heard of this would have been a Metro Radio news bulletin or maybe even walking past a Chronical seller Same when we signed Shearer, Dad faxed me the page from the Chronicle Radios and ceefax all the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I was fishing in south shields early in the morning when we signed Shearer, some random bloke driving past slowed down, wound his window down and shouted over at us "the toons just signed Shearer for £15m!!!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Obviously Lee Ryder has chosen Paul Dummett in front of Enrique for his team of the decade https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-uniteds-team-decade-lee-17489801 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 His 7/10 match ratings are probably the most talked about merit marks in club history, 'I remember the days of winning the FA Cups in the fifties, the entertainers in the nineties or Bobby Robson's Champion's League journeys in the early 2000s. But I tell you what, none of that can hold a candle to the succession of 7/10's Lee Ryder bestowed upon Paul Dummett under Mike Ashley's stewardship' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Love the bloke saying he wouldn't have Ben Arfa in cause he's a "One in six" player, but would find room for Barton in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I was fishing in south shields early in the morning when we signed Shearer, some random bloke driving past slowed down, wound his window down and shouted over at us "the toons just signed Shearer for £15m!!!" I really miss this club pre Ashley man. :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Fucking despise Lee Ryder and the rest of the Chronicle. Almost as much as Pardew and Ashley, which says a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Fucking despise Lee Ryder and the rest of the Chronicle. Almost as much as Ashley, which says a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 You damn Pardew lover!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 You damn Pardew lover!! There’s levels to hate Ashley>Bruce>Richard Keys>Gary Neville>Mark Douglas>Luke Edwards>Lee Ryder>Phil Neville>Jenas>Any human that talks bad of Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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