Whitley mag Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Steve Nickson spends more time in South America than the toon There’s worse places he could be spending his time to be fair. Sensational if we get this kid and Dos Santos. Edited October 25, 2022 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Anyone know what position he plays or what type of player he is ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gbandit Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 And once again, my cock is rock hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Guardian Angel in the side, if we can’t get Jesus, that’ll do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Sign up Endrick while we're there as well please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Will have the Brazil national team here for a friendly in a few years at this rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Good to see us potentially strengthening the u21 side in January for a crack at the youth cup. In all seriousness the transfer strategy is very exciting, this gets me going more than some 30 year old star on the decline. We have the potential to become one of the youngest and most exciting teams around under Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Good to see us potentially strengthening the u21 side in January for a crack at the youth cup. In all seriousness the transfer strategy is very exciting, this gets me going more than some 30 year old star on the decline. We have the potential to become one of the youngest and most exciting teams around under Howe. Thing is with our good start to the season we don’t even have to panic into an older star, not that I’m knocking that especially with how important the Trippier signing was. It makes it easier and more justifiable going for these younger ‘wonder kids’ exciting times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 That’s the end of Joao Pedro then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Tisd09 said: Thing is with our good start to the season we don’t even have to panic into an older star, not that I’m knocking that especially with how important the Trippier signing was. It makes it easier and more justifiable going for these younger ‘wonder kids’ exciting times Always a place for a Trippier who is probably my favourite player at the moment. But undoubtedly we’re in a good place to recruit for the future, as Keegan used to always preach the best time to buy is when you’re doing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Jack27 said: Andrey Santos and Angelo Gabriel through the door please Dan, thank you. I'm getting very confused about all these Brazilian wonderkids. There's Andrey Santos (CM) and Angelo Gabriel (FW) who plays for Santos and they're both around €25m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: I'm getting very confused about all these Brazilian wonderkids. There's Andrey Santos (CM) and Angelo Gabriel (FW) who plays for Santos and they're both around €25m? Indeed. Andrey Santos plays for Vasco, Ângelo plays for Santos. Not sure on price but probably about right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 If we signed these 2 lads would they class as for the academy and not count towards ffp? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: If we signed these 2 lads would they class as for the academy and not count towards ffp? FFP is a myth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: If we signed these 2 lads would they class as for the academy and not count towards ffp? No idea but I wouldn’t imagine so; especially with the numbers being talked about. Seems like too obvious a loophole to exploit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Sign up Endrick while we're there as well please. His buyout clause is 60m euros (Picturing Dan Ashworth opening his briefcase in the boardroom of the Brazilian club then walking out with the player whilst a helicopter awaits on the outside) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, McCormick said: No idea but I wouldn’t imagine so; especially with the numbers being talked about. Seems like too obvious a loophole to exploit. It does, however can’t see us spending big on these 2 when we need more first team signings still taking into account ffp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) A few of these lads could end up being flipped for a profit later on, so maybe that’s entered their thinking? I think the issue now is the policy of selling players for a profit; most, if not all, PL teams can’t act like stepping stones anymore. If a player does well in the Premier League, you have to hope a bigger PL team swoops in as 99% of teams in the world wouldn’t be able to match the asking price. If the player wants a move to a bigger European team that has been priced out, he’ll just run his contract down. It’s becoming quite the challenge. Edited October 25, 2022 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Love this. I would love a proper prospect to have on the bench and get the minutes Murphy & Fraser have been getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, McCormick said: A few of these lads could end up being flipped for a profit later on, so maybe that’s entered their thinking? I think the issue now is the policy selling players for a profit; most, if not all, PL teams can’t act like stepping stones anymore. If a player does well in the Premier League, you have to hope a bigger PL team swoops in as 99% of teams in the world wouldn’t be able to afford the player. If the player wants a move to a bigger European team that has been priced out, he’ll just run his contract down. It’s becoming quite the challenge. There's always teams throwing around big money. A £30m transfer like this, with low wages can always be flipped for £50-£60m if it goes well. You have 7-8 PL clubs that can do that. Plus 3 from Spain, a few from Italy, PSG etc. It's the transfers that the likes of Chelsea and Liverpool do that they can't sell on. The wages are too big and the inital fees £40m+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Fair enough, but the player has to do exceptionally well to be considered by any of those teams you’ve mentioned. It’s become a riskier proposition now for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, McCormick said: Fair enough, but the player has to do exceptionally well to be considered by any of those teams you’ve mentioned. It’s become a riskier proposition now for sure. Richarlison scored 43 goals in 135 pl matches to get that move. Even his Everton move could've been as high as 50m. Raphinha 17 in 65 (and a lot of assists). You don't have to be a world-beater to get that type of fee for a Brazilian international. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Btw Raphinha has started poorly at Barca. If he continues to dissappoint and Barca crash out of Europe, i'd be in for him next summer and give Barca 80% of their fee back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Quick calculation, sign Brazilian player X for £20m fee + 5yr contract @£40k/week = £2m/year wages + £4m/year amortisation = £6m/year So hypothetically if you sell X for £30m after three seasons, he'll gain you £22m from a FFP perspective* because his book value will be £20m - (3 x £4m) = £8m We bought Bruno for £35m (I think?) and all he had was 50 appearances in France and a handful of Brazil caps. *I'm not sure whether wages would be part of the calculation, if so then it's a £16m gain because he'll have cost £6m in wages Edited October 25, 2022 by Keegans Export Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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