gbandit Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 What’s the noise been like on Rayan Cherki recently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mikky said: This guy is in my list M Kudos - K Thuram - Y Fofana - R Neves - M Ugarte - M Sangare - E Palacios - M Kone A lot of options out there - that’s on top of the likes of Big Dom - A Scott - Maddison Nice list! The idea of signing Youssouf Fofana has definitely grown on me more recently. He's been highly rated and linked with top clubs for a while now, but similar to Guimaraes when he was at Lyon, clubs just haven't pulled the trigger. With him going into the last year of his contract now and the price he is available for, it's a very good singing. Looking at him alongside Ugarte that a lot of us liked, he is a more progressive passer and ball carrier, and so influences and facilitates more goal scoring opportunities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, KaKa said: Nice list! The idea of signing Youssouf Fofana has definitely grown on me more recently. He's been highly rated and linked with top clubs for a while now, but similar to Guimaraes when he was at Lyon, clubs just haven't pulled the trigger. With him going into the last year of his contract now and the price he is available for, it's a very good singing. Looking at him alongside Ugarte that a lot of us liked, he is a more progressive passer and ball carrier, and so influences and facilitates more goal scoring opportunities. Ugarte looks a destroyer and clearly breaks up play, almost a David Batty type going off those stats, plenty of completed passes but not a lot progressive. I think Thuram is the one they want all depends on price and competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 I was just reading an athletic article from the other day and they said a transfer kitty of £60-£80 million was expected which Howe will push for bigger now Champions League is confirmed. The club don’t want to go all out and have their hands tied in future windows. They still mention the desire of a LB, RCB, midfield x2 and attackers x2 but are concerned with squad harmony with so many changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Ugarte looks a destroyer and clearly breaks up play, almost a David Batty type going off those stats, plenty of completed passes but not a lot progressive. I think Thuram is the one they want all depends on price and competition. Yeah, Ugarte seems to be the type of DM that plays simpler passes and more of the sideways and backwards variety, which is also why his pass percentage is so high. Thuram is very very good, and unfortunately a lot of other clubs are getting interested, and so apparently Nice are now asking for around the £50 million mark for him. Seems like there is going to be a bidding war for him this summer now, but maybe we still pull something off to get him. Really like Fofana though, and if everyone else is sleeping on him at that price of £22 million, I think we should be all over the move, maybe even in addition to Thuram. Fofana is only on around £5,000 a week at Monaco, so it's impossibly good value all around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) Am I the only one thinking that if we can’t get a player like say Raphinha or similar proven quality for our right sided forward role then we should just buy a super talented cheaper option like Arda Guler and put that money on other positions instead? I think players like Diaby are very good but I’m not convinced that we should pay the price quoted for him or similar players around the same price/quality. We should go all out and try for Arda Guler no matter what even though the competition for him is hard. Arda Guler might not give the same quality or consistency straight away but I think it’s only a season or two before he is a superior player to the likes of Diaby/Williams to name two. I have seen us linked with Ferran Torres too, but not so sure how likely that is. Not sure how well he has done lately or if the price mentioned is believable. Getting someone like him along with AG could be a very shrewd way to go. Judging by what I’ve seen before and thinking of his versatility. I also don’t see Diaby being as effective against a low block defending team, or simply put for a team like us who might go more from a team in quick transitions to a more possession based team. Especially against lesser teams. Think we need flair out wide with fullbacks roaming forward Edited May 27, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ikon said: Am I the only one thinking that if we can’t get a player like say Raphinha or similar proven quality for our right sided forward role then we should just buy a super talented cheaper option like Arda Guler and put that money on other positions instead? I think players like Diaby are very good but I’m not convinced that we should pay the price quoted for him or similar players around the same price/quality. We should go all out and try for Arda Guler no matter what even though the competition for him is hard. Arda Guler might not give the same quality or consistency straight away but I think it’s only a season or two before he is a superior player to the likes of Diaby/Williams to name two. I have seen us linked with Ferran Torres too, but not so sure how likely that is. Not sure how well he has done lately or if the price mentioned is believable. Getting someone like him along with AG could be a very shrewd way to go. Judging by what I’ve seen before and thinking of his versatility. I also don’t see Diaby being as effective against a low block defending team, or simply put for a team like us who might go more from a team in quick transitions to a more possession based team. Especially against lesser teams. Think we need flair out wide with fullbacks roaming forward I think we'll get a high end right sided forward, and still look at the likes of Arda Guler as well tbh. The Arda kid looks not just a very special talent, but he is also very versatile. As well as playing that right side role he can also play as a progressive number 8 and so he would be incredibly valuable. He can also be had for a very fair price. The good news is that he's the kind of young talent Ashworth routinely picked up for Brighton and so I think the interest is likely real. Similar to the young Brazilians we've been looking at like Matheus Franca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) We're pretty stacked on the wings, we need a RW who would walk into any side really, given how we play. Edited May 27, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 I wouldn’t be surprised if we start next season with Miggy at RW again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, KaKa said: I think we'll get a high end right sided forward, and still look at the likes of Arda Guler as well tbh. The Arda kid looks not just a very special talent, but he is also very versatile. As well as playing that right side role he can also play as a progressive number 8 and so he would be incredibly valuable. He can also be had for a very fair price. The good news is that he's the kind of young talent Ashworth routinely picked up for Brighton and so I think the interest is likely real. Similar to the young Brazilians we've been looking at like Matheus Franca. Ideally yeah. Finding that top top class right side option is easier said than done. Don’t want us to sign someone that isn’t transformational. If we can’t then there is the possibility to use that 40m elsewhere if we get only AG for example. Think AG will play as an inverted wide forward to begin with before he slots in to a more of a natural #10 position. A footballer with that technical ability and situational awareness and vision can basically play blindfolded more or less anywhere up the pitch. Edited May 27, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: We're pretty stacked on the wings, we need a RW who wouod walk into any side really, gkven how we play. I agree. I see AG as a must sign if possible though no matter what. Edited May 27, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 We are stacked with wingers, but we don’t have one top quality one. I think RW is as much a priority as a CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: We are stacked with wingers, but we don’t have one top quality one. I think RW is as much a priority as a CM. Totally agree. Would love to get someone like Raphinha even though he’s probably unlikely. Struggling to think of too many that would be worth the cost. Edited May 27, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Just now, Ikon said: Totally agree. Would love to get someone like Raphinha even though he’s probably unlikely. Possible though, isn’t he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Just now, PauloGeordio said: Possible though, isn’t he? I think so, that’s why I wouldn’t rule it out. Probably wouldn’t bet money on it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: I think so, that’s why I wouldn’t rule it out. Probably wouldn’t bet money on it though. Exciting times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ikon said: Ideally yeah. Finding that top top class right side option is easier said than done. Don’t want us to sign someone that isn’t transformational. If we can’t then there is the possibility to use that 40m elsewhere if we get only AG for example. Think AG will play as an inverted wide forward to begin with before he slots in to a more of a natural #10 position. A footballer with that technical ability and situational awareness and vision can basically play blindfolded more or less anywhere up the pitch. The latest right sided forward link is Mohammed Kuddus. Will likely be in that £30 million range that has been great for us. Could be transformational for us on that side, without costing crazy money. I think if Arda comes in he'd still play loads as well in both wide right and in the number 8 slots, without as much pressure as it would be a significant step up and he is still really young. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 I think the best option for AG would be to go to Leipzig or Dortmund tbh. Read that Leipzig are in for him now too. Also that him and his father agreed with FB to remove the 5m 1500 minutes clause now and that he is likely to cost 20m instead. If reports are correct mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We are stacked with wingers, but we don’t have one top quality one. I think RW is as much a priority as a CM. If you are looking for upgrades to the first team then Burn, Longstaff and Almiron are where we should be starting. That doesn’t mean that they won’t get a fair number of games between them this season but it’s where I can see us improving to try and maintain our place in the Champions League positions. I really like the Joelinton and Willock pairing down the left and I think it will only get better when Willock continues to improve and a new left back is added. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Nice list! The idea of signing Youssouf Fofana has definitely grown on me more recently. He's been highly rated and linked with top clubs for a while now, but similar to Guimaraes when he was at Lyon, clubs just haven't pulled the trigger. With him going into the last year of his contract now and the price he is available for, it's a very good singing. Looking at him alongside Ugarte that a lot of us liked, he is a more progressive passer and ball carrier, and so influences and facilitates more goal scoring opportunities. Think the main crux of my point Kaka was that there’s no excuses for us this summer - players are available to us - good and transformational players at that On the issue of wings - my ideal scenario is Raphinha/Chuckuwueze/Diaby (in that order) on the right side with the option of Maddison on the left - I think EH prefers a 433 that can become a 451 too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) Moussa Diaby's assists in his last three seasons have been incredible. Goals haven't been bad either. (20/21 A-10 G-4) (21/22 A-12 G-13) (22/23 A-8 G-9) Hope we're serious about going for this player. He's on quite low wages also. Edited May 27, 2023 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mikky said: Think the main crux of my point Kaka was that there’s no excuses for us this summer - players are available to us - good and transformational players at that On the issue of wings - my ideal scenario is Raphinha/Chuckuwueze/Diaby (in that order) on the right side with the option of Maddison on the left - I think EH prefers a 433 that can become a 451 too Yeah, I agree, there are a lot of options out there. Could be an incredibly exciting summer. I think we'll do some really good business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 This is saying us and Man Utd are in for Kim Min-jae and that we have the advantage in signing him https://twitter.com/brunoandrd/status/1662462649278386178?s=20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: This is saying us and Man Utd are in for Kim Min-jae and that we have the advantage in signing him https://twitter.com/brunoandrd/status/1662462649278386178?s=20 That would be an excellent bit if business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Never seen him play, what’s he like ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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