SUPERTOON Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 9 new players would be far to many for one window unless a few where young kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Whoever we get I expect it to be done fairly early, Howe seems to hold great store in getting a solid pre-season as a squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ben said: I think your right there, the likes of Ritchie and Lascelles will need to be kept on to improve the depth of the squad rather than sell the lot and Start again. I reckon 4 players pushing a £200 million spend will be the target, which let's be honest is fucking amazing Agreed - burn being able to cover cb and lb will be massive, get a new lb in (not tierney - too many injuries) and that’s our back sorted imo. Edited May 30, 2023 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 If we lose Dubravka and ASM. Elliot maybe goes on loan. I dont think 9 is unrealistic considering we will probably sell 3-5 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sufi said: I dont expect 9. I think we may need 9 in. Our backup GK may go. Our LW may be off as well. We need a LB. We need 2 CM. We need competition at RW. We need a RCB. We need a backup RB. We need a 3rd CF. Wouldnt shock me at all if we bring 9 new faces in. Some on loan, some for free, some as backups for injury or emergency situations etc. I'm fine with being dissapointed if its 5 or 6 instead of 9, but I dont see 9 as unrealistic considering the players who are on our bench who will surely be sold, and the above mentioned needs. There’s absolutely no chance of signing 9 players for the first team squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, SteV said: There’s absolutely no chance of signing 9 players for the first team squad. Howe had said 2-3 no idea how some are speculating 9 Edited May 30, 2023 by r0cafella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, SteV said: There’s absolutely no chance of signing 9 players for the first team squad. How many players from the first team squad do you think we will sell or maybe even loan out this summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 The pressure regains stat comparison is why I think Szoboszlai should be our preference. I've always thought of Maddison as a bit of a luxury player out of possession. Him in the starting 11 would weaken our press. Tbh, Szoboszlai just looks a better player there. And he has age on his side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, 1964 said: Whoever we get I expect it to be done fairly early, Howe seems to hold great store in getting a solid pre-season as a squad That's true but we've also shown a willingness to wait for a top target if the initial price quoted isn't right for us. Isak is the obvious example, we went early in the window, were told it was the release fee or nothing, walked away then came back once the asking price had come down. Wouldn't massively surprise me to have a similar thing happen with DS. Just now, Sufi said: If we lose Dubravka and ASM. Elliot maybe goes on loan. I dont think 9 is unrealistic considering we will probably sell 3-5 players. I'd be absolutely staggered if we bring 9 in, especially as most of those 3-5 we'll be looking to sell have barely played any minutes this season (assuming you're on about Manquillo, Fraser, Darlow etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Some folk are getting a little overexcited Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Sufi said: How many players from the first team squad do you think we will sell or maybe even loan out this summer? None will be sold and we certainly won’t loan Elliot out - he’ll get more games in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) Manquillo, Lewis, Krafth, Fraser, Ritchie.. All likely and hopefully gone. Dubravka and ASM may well go also. Edited May 30, 2023 by Sufi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, Sufi said: Manquillo, Lewis, Krafth, Fraser. All likely gone. Dubravka and ASM may well go also. Krafth?? Where are you getting this from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Sufi said: How many players from the first team squad do you think we will sell or maybe even loan out this summer? Loan - be surprised if it’s anyone from the current squad (bar a kind of loan that’s really a sale like Hayden and Hendrick this season). Maybe Miley I suppose, certainly not Anderson. Sell - Fraser and Lewis. Think we’d like to keep to Dubravka, but he might well want to go, in which case we’d let him. Manquillo or Kraft. Darlow. Other than that only someone who asks to be away, like Ritchie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 8 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Szoboszlai would be an incredible signing - how likely is it though? It feels like we’re a year or two away from players like him, but perhaps the CL qualification opens up paths to this sort of player? He's very much in the Bruno/Isak bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, LV said: Krafth?? Where are you getting this from? Its a transfer rumors thread. I have no source for Fraser, Ritchie, Manquillo or Lewis being gone either. Let me speculate in peace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sufi said: Manquillo, Lewis, Krafth, Fraser, Ritchie.. All likely and hopefully gone. Dubravka and ASM may well go also. Manquillo 189, Lewis 122, Krafth 39, Fraser 311, Richie 212 = so thats 873mins between them. They don't need replacing by more than one player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sufi said: Manquillo, Lewis, Krafth, Fraser, Ritchie.. All likely and hopefully gone. Dubravka and ASM may well go also. They won’t but let’s say they do - you’re gonna struggle to get anything for the first five listed and ffp is real so we can’t spend £100m on replacing them. Every window ASM is linked with going and never happens - he’ll still be here and dubravka proved he’s still a good keeper against Chelsea so he could stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Sufi said: How many players from the first team squad do you think we will sell or maybe even loan out this summer? That have actually played? (so not include Lewis, Fraser, M. Longstaff, Clark, Hendrick, Gillespie, Ritchie) Not many. 2-3 I would say. We need: left back (and need to get rid of 1-2 current left backs) two centre midfielders, a defensive and an attacking one right winger (and maybe get rid of one) understudy right centre back for Schär Anything else is a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, SteV said: Loan - be surprised if it’s anyone from the current squad (bar a kind of loan that’s really a sale like Hayden and Hendrick this season). Maybe Miley I suppose, certainly not Anderson. Sell - Fraser and Lewis. Think we’d like to keep to Dubravka, but he might well want to go, in which case we’d let him. Manquillo or Kraft. Darlow. Other than that only someone who asks to be away, like Ritchie. So sell 6 potentially. How can we add 3 in that case? (responding to the other posters who view 9 new faces as unrealistic) IF we sell Fraser, Lewis, one of Manquillo or Krafth, one of Darlow or Dubravka, and Ritchie. ASM goes. 2-3 players to replace our entire bench? I think we may see the same kind of turnover that teams who go from championship to prem see. Our goals, the competitions we will be in, everything has changed. A big chunk of our squad is made up of players who arent up to the level we hope to compete at next season. Many of them cant even be trusted as backups or emergency fill-ins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 We probably need four or five. A RCB, LB, CM x 2, RW. The RCB and one of the CMs could even be all potential like Alex Scott or Arda Guler. That'd allow us to ship out Darlow, Karius or Dubs, Manquillo, Lewis, Hendrick, Hayden and Fraser. Gillespie, Dummet and Ritchie are all out of contract, it wouldn't be surprising to see them see the latter two stay on in a coaching capacity. We'll probably consider offers for us if a decent bid comes in too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sufi said: So sell 6 potentially. How can we add 3 in that case? (responding to the other posters who view 9 new faces as unrealistic) IF we sell Fraser, Lewis, one of Manquillo or Krafth, one of Darlow or Dubravka, and Ritchie. ASM goes. 2-3 players to replace our entire bench? I think we may see the same kind of turnover that teams who go from championship to prem see. Our goals, the competitions we will be in, everything has changed. A big chunk of our squad is made up of players who arent up to the level we hope to compete at next season. Many of them cant even be trusted as backups or emergency fill-ins. No, sell 5 potentially. Kraft wasn’t in the PL squad second half of the season, so he doesn’t get replaced, or sell Manquillo and Kraft replaces him. Darlow wasn’t in the squad so he wouldn’t necessarily need replaced. Obviously if we were to sell a ‘big’ player like ASM or Miggy (can’t see it myself) then clearly they would need replacing. If you’re bringing 9 in, you’ve got to lose 9 out of the current 25 man squad, and that’s just not happening. Edited May 30, 2023 by SteV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Manquillo 189, Lewis 122, Krafth 39, Fraser 311, Richie 212 = so thats 873mins between them. They don't need replacing by more than one player. I disagree. We leaned very heavily on the same small group of players this season and had great success doing so. A red card, an injury etc could be the difference next season. I think part of the reason those numbers are so low...and part of the reason we relied on the same 16 guys is because howe doesnt trust the fellas at the end of the bench. He's hinted at it recently in terms of him leaning heavily on certain players and barely limping across the finish line. We wont get away with that next season. Even if we can its not a smart risk to take. We cant replace 3 fullbacks and 2 wingers with one player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, Sufi said: If we lose Dubravka and ASM. Elliot maybe goes on loan. I dont think 9 is unrealistic considering we will probably sell 3-5 players. It's why I don't think we lose ASM, Dubravka too It's a massive risk adding a lot of players to a squad that's big on harmony and team spirit The focus has to be keeping those that are top players and replace the weak links in the squad, we have enough weak links before looking at someone like ASM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sufi said: So sell 6 potentially. How can we add 3 in that case? (responding to the other posters who view 9 new faces as unrealistic) IF we sell Fraser, Lewis, one of Manquillo or Krafth, one of Darlow or Dubravka, and Ritchie. ASM goes. 2-3 players to replace our entire bench? I think we may see the same kind of turnover that teams who go from championship to prem see. Our goals, the competitions we will be in, everything has changed. A big chunk of our squad is made up of players who arent up to the level we hope to compete at next season. Many of them cant even be trusted as backups or emergency fill-ins. You do know nowadays ffp is real right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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