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Alexander Isak - C*nt (resting his glass bones so he can get properly injured at the world cup)


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21 minutes ago, KennyUtd said:

Howay man, nobody is worth that. I love the lad but that's just fkn nonsense. 😆

Course he is, that money exists within football and he and other players should be the ones compensated for it rather than agents, clubs, directors etc 

 

 

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Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I feel really old when contracts are discussed like, I just think he agreed to his current salary and still has loads of time on his deal.

 

Like I say, if the club wants or can reward him with more money than that's great. But I still can't see it entirely from the player's point of view. 

 

I know, I know. 


He agreed to a salary before he became one of the best strikers in the world for a team not yet in the CL, who’s revenue have increased and when other competitors are offering wages to less talented and proven players far higher than his own in a career where your best playing days are quite short and your income potential is rightly maximized so you can provide for yourself and your own. Yes you’re terribly old fashioned in your views on this matter, but still love you bro. 

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Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I feel really old when contracts are discussed like, I just think he agreed to his current salary and still has loads of time on his deal.

 

Like I say, if the club wants or can reward him with more money than that's great. But I still can't see it entirely from the player's point of view. 

 

I know, I know. 

There's two sides to any negotiation. Yes, we don't want to lose him on the cheap/free, but likewise if he turns down an extra £120k/week he's leaving nearly £20m on the table with three years left.

 

Plus, assuming there's a release clause in there so if one of those clubs who want to give him £300k/week or more fancy making a move there's a fee written in black and white so he only has to "accept" whatever we're offering for as long as it takes someone to activate that clause.

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2 minutes ago, Kanj said:

He agreed to a salary before he became one of the best strikers in the world for a team not yet in the CL, who’s revenue have increased and when other competitors are offering wages to less talented and proven players far higher than his own in a career where your best playing days are quite short and your income potential is rightly maximized so you can provide for yourself and your own. Yes you’re terribly old fashioned in your views on this matter, but still love you bro. 

 

Thank you :lol:

 

I just think it's extreme short-term thinking. He might not be as good next season, for example, who knows.

 

I don't mind him 'wanting' to maximise his earnings, but unfortunately he might be in a position where he can't earn the max because he plays for Newcastle for another three years and we only have so much money. 

 

As I said before, I would be happy if he signs a new contract. 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Course he is, that money exists within football and he and other players should be the ones compensated for it rather than agents, clubs, directors etc 

 

 

 

Yeah don't understand how anyone can argue Isak isn't worth £300k in todays money 

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Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Thank you :lol:

 

I just think it's extreme short-term thinking. He might not be as good next season, for example, who knows.

 

I don't mind him 'wanting' to maximise his earnings, but unfortunately he might be in a position where he can't earn the max because he plays for Newcastle for another three years and we only have so much money. 

 


We will need to agree to disagree. It’s not extreme short term thinking. We will NEVER be a consistent CL team if we don’t continue to pay the going rate for top tier talent. Losing arguably one of the worlds best strikers because we can’t afford to pay him the going rate is a complete kick in the gut for our long term ambitions. 

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Just now, Kanj said:

We will need to agree to disagree. It’s not extreme short term thinking. We will NEVER be a consistent CL team if we don’t continue to pay the going rate for top tier talent. Losing arguably one of the worlds best strikers because we can’t afford to pay him the going rate is a complete kick in the gut for our long term ambitions. 

 

Nah I don't disagree with that really, I just think we could keep him for at least another season on his current deal. 

 

It's not like if he doesn't sign now he has to leave. 

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Like I said in another thread, there should be no reason why we’re not signing the best players from PL clubs that finished below us. The fact Pedro and Delap are being offered more money than our highest earners and they haven’t proven fuck all yet is fucking horrible. The restrictions we’re faced with aren’t fair at all. 

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2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Nah I don't disagree with that really, I just think we could keep him for at least another season on his current deal. 

 

It's not like if he doesn't sign now he has to leave. 

 

But he coukd have a 'groin injury' all season.

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300K is out of the question unless the owners takes urgent action on sponsorships. But even then the PL will no doubt hold it up for months as they determine if it's a related party or fair value. It's fucking infuriating.

 

 

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We could afford to pay Isak £300k p/w. The problem is our other key players who want some parity with our top earner. Plus new signings wanting top end ranges.

 

If we give Isak £300k, then can we afford to also move Tonali, Bruno and others to £200k to £250k? Probably not and then that becomes a big problem.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said:

300K is out of the question unless the owners takes urgent action on sponsorships. But even then the PL will no doubt hold it up for months as they determine if it's a related party or fair value. It's infuriating we're letting the breakaway six crush our ambitions and increase the gap.

 

If he signs a new 5 year contract his transfer fee amortisation would fall from roughly £12m per year to £4.8m.

 

He is reportedly currently on £120k per week, technically we could increase that to £260k without it costing us anything extra in PSR terms. It would probably be a bit more complicated than that with signing on fees and other stuff but £300k wouldn't be likely to be out of the question financially.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

If he signs a new 5 year contract his transfer fee amortisation would fall from roughly £12m per year to £4.8m.

 

He is reportedly currently on £120k per week, technically we could increase that to £260 without it costing us anything extra in PSR terms. It would probably be a bit more complicated than that with signing on fees and other stuff but £300k wouldn't be likely to be out of the question financially.

Was it ever confirmed if that Bruno has to equal top earner? 

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6 minutes ago, BlueStar said:

Is "tapping up" still a thing or can you just unsettle a player all you like nowadays?   Haven't even heard the phrase forever and yet it certainly still seems to go on.

 

Still against the rules:

 

T.3. Any Club which by itself, by any of its Officials, by any of its Players, by its Football Agent, by any other Person on its behalf or by any other means whatsoever makes an approach either directly or indirectly to a Contract Player except as permitted by either Rule T.1.2 or Rule T.2 shall be in breach of these Rules and may be dealt with under the provisions of Section W (Disciplinary) of these Rules.

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44 minutes ago, KennyUtd said:

Howay man, nobody is worth that. I love the lad but that's just fkn nonsense. 😆

250k is about a third less than VVD, who Isak runs rings around and scores goals against every time he plays him.

Even when likely injured, like in the Carabao Cup final.

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Again, I highly doubt Bruno would kick up a fuss because his talisman of a striker gets the biggest pay day going. The characters we have cultivated would likely rally around the fact the club showed the ambition to keep a player who has the ability to score a winning goal in a cup final or score 20+ and fire us to CL. It would match the ambition they have that we’re trying to build something special here. 

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You can't value a player at £150m and not expect him to want a huge new deal - he's probably not in the top 30 earners in the PL at the minute.

 

Ekitike is apparently on 300K a week at Liverpool!

 

He's worth it in today's market.

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10 minutes ago, Kanj said:

Again, I highly doubt Bruno would kick up a fuss because his talisman of a striker gets the biggest pay day going. 

Bruno, Joelinton, Gordon all signed new contracts not that long a go. If they want another new they will have to play at elite standards/world class. Isak is in the top 1-3 bracket in the world. Its the elite.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

If he signs a new 5 year contract his transfer fee amortisation would fall from roughly £12m per year to £4.8m.

 

He is reportedly currently on £120k per week, technically we could increase that to £260k without it costing us anything extra in PSR terms. It would probably be a bit more complicated than that with signing on fees and other stuff but £300k wouldn't be likely to be out of the question financially.

 

 

 

Can you go in and get this sorted please man? I might be able to start sleeping better at night 😂

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6 minutes ago, Paully said:

You can't value a player at £150m and not expect him to want a huge new deal - he's probably not in the top 30 earners in the PL at the minute.

 

Ekitike is apparently on 300K a week at Liverpool!

 

He's worth it in today's market.


I agree, but absolutely no chance Ekitike is close to 300k. Doubt he’s even near Wirtz. 

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We might struggle to offer 300k but I don’t see 250k as impossible. The biggest problem won’t be the wage imo, it will be getting him to wanting to sign a new deal to begin with. Never mind without a low clause. I don’t think we’ll do enough this summer to be able to convince him it’s the place to be. This summer window is so much more than just signing good players, it’s about sending the right signals to our current stars as well. 

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