Alexander Isak: has a chance to play against Everton (Howe)

[David Edgar]

It isn't like being well trained and training  to reduce injury risk are mutually exclusive  

 

 

Edited October 16, 2022 by David Edgar

[TBG]

I tell you what, I'm going to be furious (knowing fine well Wilson can't play three games in a week and there's no other option) when Wood comes on/starts

[Chapo]

Knew this would happen once Derek Wright left. 

[madras]

Just going off the thread title, is he OK for the Everton game ?

[relámpago blanco]

3 minutes ago, madras said:

Just going off the thread title, is he OK for the Everton game ?

I was about to ask that. Maybe he gets injured in the Everton game.

[McCormick]

Desperate to see us field our best xi. Grating as fuck.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Ffs. Going to be after the world cup when we actually see everyone together. What was Howe's injury record like at Bournemouth? 

[TRon]

He came back with an injury from international duty didn't he?  If it was linked to his fitness issues with us then he shouldn't have gone there.

[Guest]

Is his injury linked to being here?

[Gawalls]

1 hour ago, Dokko said:

Just a knock, nothing to worry about.

He’ll have missed at least 6 games with this ‘knock’ alone, that’s roughly 16% of the season. When are we allowed to worry?  People also say Wilson is injury prone so it doesn’t count but hes played under Howe for a huge chunk of his career so surely we can still question his methods?

[Dokko]

3 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

He’ll have missed at least 6 games with this ‘knock’ alone, that’s roughly 16% of the season. When are we allowed to worry?  People also say Wilson is injury prone so it doesn’t count but hes played under Howe for a huge chunk of his career so surely we can still question his methods?

 

We're not allowed, well not on here anyway. See ASM 'just a knock' is now several games as well. 

[LV]

Here they are..

[Guest]

The players who aren't suited to this sort of tactic will eventually be moved on and replaced with players who are used to this sort of setup. I'd be surprised if Isak's injury is a result of training when he was only here 5 minutes.

[The Butcher]

It's probably a case of too much too soon for both Isak and ASM. 

[Gawalls]

1 minute ago, LV said:

Here they are..

So we sign a player who plays for 3 games then he’s out for at least 6. He’s the 5th person this season with injuries - we say that’s questionable and get a ‘here they are’ response to say we’re idiots or something.

 

 When there’s this many you’d do well to try and learn from mistakes is all I’m saying.  A lot of our players always seem to have injury issues and I really don’t want to see isak going the same way.

 

 Try to be proactive instead of reactive

[LV]

I seem to remember non contact muscle injuries have been a problem for us for around 20 years.

 

But no, it must be Eddie’s methods 

[toon25]

I would imagine these sort of injuries would become ever more rare as we invest in state of the art training facilities.

 

[LV]

I’m trying to find some evidence of it but I also seem to remember a past manager or someone linked to the club saying the ground at our training ground is too firm or something and it was looked into as a cause of the injuries we kept getting.

 

Anyone else remember this or have I just imagined it?? 

[HaydnNUFC]

2 hours ago, Scoot said:

 

Becoming a joke this now.

 

Swear we already knew this from Howe's press conference yesterday. 

[Dokko]

Just now, LV said:

I’m trying to find some evidence of it but I also seem to remember a past manager or someone linked to the club saying the ground at our training ground is too firm or something and it was looked into as a cause of the injuries we kept getting.

 

Anyone else remember this or have I just imagined it?? 

 

Souness.

 

 

[Kanj]

Just now, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Swear we already knew this from Howe's press conference yesterday. 

That’s what I thought too. 

[LV]

Just now, Dokko said:

 

Souness.

 

 

Yeah that might have been it. 
 

We really badly need new facilities 

[Gawalls]

2 minutes ago, LV said:

I seem to remember non contact muscle injuries have been a problem for us for around 20 years.

 

But no, it must be Eddie’s methods 

Did I say it was his fault or did I say it’s worth looking into? 
 

I work at a software company and we do these exercises all the time, it’s called a non blame exercise to discover why issues keep recurring over and over.

[LV]

21 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

He’ll have missed at least 6 games with this ‘knock’ alone, that’s roughly 16% of the season. When are we allowed to worry?  People also say Wilson is injury prone so it doesn’t count but hes played under Howe for a huge chunk of his career so surely we can still question his methods?

 

[Dokko]

3 minutes ago, LV said:

I seem to remember non contact muscle injuries have been a problem for us for around 20 years.

 

But no, it must be Eddie’s methods 

 

Nothing to do with pointing fingers, but the passing every injury off as 'just a knock' when there clearly is more to it than that. It's like they are hiding something. 

 

It has been an issue for decades, I think its many things rolled in to one, but I go back to the transfer window where enough wasn't done imho, and we needed someone else up front to really push on. We'd have a good chance of being a comfortable 4th had we not picked these up or had more options. It's just a shame that's all. Hate the feeling of missed opportunity.

 

Unless the players quite clearly feel and show they are being pushed too hard, then its fine for me to keep going like this. But if it is that training is tough and it tends to be that we will pick up injuries, then the club & management would have known this, and really could have got a couple of players in to keep that momentum going.