Joelinton7 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Just so people are aware, the reason he's told the club he wants to go without even having a fucking offer is to make us sell for a lower price. He wants to force the move. Yeah the reason he’s left it until now is to have the club over a barrel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said: Maybe but then if he wanted 300k that’s all moot cos we were never paying that at many point. Maybe aye, but that's probably the going rate for a striker of his calibre so it couldn't have came as much as a shock to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, khay said: And as sad as it is. Jotas death has changed Liverpool’s plans. Maybe there was no thought from any party that Liverpool were going to make a serious bid this year. We will need to look to reinvest as best we can and keep working off the field to catch up. So far we have reached champions league twice and won a cup. We are on the right path. Heard someone say that even though it was a tragedy, Liverpool will have more money to play with as a result with insurance money coming in for what was a player who had a fair share of injuries. It's worked against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earp Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 12 minutes ago, geordiesteve710 said: Think we need to be pragmatic here. Arrange a deal with the player that includes a release clause for next summer of less than his full value (maybe a clause of £100m?) Which will enable hom to negotiate a bumper pay package with whoever he goes to. Whether this is a gentlemans agreement or in the guise of a new contract with slight pay increase I don't care. Explain to him that the club simply cannot afford to lose him this summer for a myriad of reaspns, not least that his replacement hasn't been found yet. If he doesn't go for that then he's got 2 options to either carry on as is or to go in a strop, refuse to play etc. Which will involve outing himself as a stroppy cunt and accordingly reduce his value to any self-respecting top club and therefore his negotiating position with them. I think if he stayed it would be an uneasy relationship between him and the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: We need to learn from Liverpool like, they've absolutely dusted us here. We can't unfortunately, we can't catch up so we never have such a strong position to negotiate from. Same way Real dusted Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Just logged on to see this. Shocked. The last i was told and have been told since April by those very close is that its next year he would go and it would be Spain. There was a multi hour phone call between all parties including Liverpool last week and it was decided that NUFC would not budge on their stance both timing wise and financially, so Liverpool went for Ekitike instead. Even today I was told the stance stays the same and it would have to be something crazy and from abroad for this to happen this summer. They did mention cash and players would be acceptable and was discussed but the money is still record setting even in that case and all upfront. You might still be right TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Joelinton7 said: Yeah the reason he’s left it until now is to have the club over a barrel. Aye, that's why it's fuck him. Shown his true colours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We could’ve offered him double his current contract with zero PSR issues arising. PSR isn’t what has caused this in terms of his contract. Are wages not part of PSR ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 He (or more likely his agent) have 100% fucked us with the timing of this, like. Ah well, 26/27 PSR spreadsheet champions it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, relámpago blanco said: What's that supposed to mean "Paper bollocks" This kind of stuff comes out because players and their agents use these blokes to put it out there to force clubs hands so they can get a transfer Its not Alan Oliver getting a snippet off Derek wright anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: We need to learn from Liverpool like, they've absolutely dusted us here. Learn that we need to be more successful and have more money? We know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footysteve Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 29 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Because he’s a professional footballer looking after his own informed self-interest? If he’d been shite for us there’d have been folks wanting him to take a pay cut to go. It cuts both ways. Anyone who thinks that any player who signs for a club has genuine deep-felt emotion for the club needs a good shake. They’re all ‘mercenary’ to a degree - as would any of us be. Come on… You could see this coming a mile away. To quote Danielle Negreanu, in this game of transfer Poker, Newcastle ownership was very “optimistic “ that they were going to come out on top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallowghoul Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, TRon said: Heard someone say that even though it was a tragedy, Liverpool will have more money to play with as a result with insurance money coming in for what was a player who had a fair share of injuries. It's worked against us. That is clear. His sale value would have been a lot lower than market value (insurance purposes) and it's immediate cash in the accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Elric said: He (or more likely his agent) have 100% fucked us with the timing of this, like. Ah well, 26/27 PSR spreadsheet champions it is Stop it with the agent crap. Is his agent a cunt likely. Is his agent acting on behalf of his client also yes. Ergo. Both cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 hour ago, duo said: It's basically killed off our transfer window as it's going to impact attracting players to the club What attraction is this like? 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Elric said: He (or more likely his agent) have 100% fucked us with the timing of this, like. Ah well, 26/27 PSR spreadsheet champions it is No, that'll be Liverpool, they must have at least £300m of the Coutinho money left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: We need to learn from Liverpool like, they've absolutely dusted us here. The only thing to learn is those in ascendency when PSR came in 2013 are able to financially bully the rest with little recourse or consequence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Doubt anyone can afford him to be honest, see you in Sela Cup lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, madras said: Are wages not part of PSR ? They are, but his fee would be reamortised, which would free up c.£100k per werk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, madras said: Are wages not part of PSR ? They are as far as I know. It's misleading to point to one player's wage as well, you have to consider the whole wage structure and what a massive pay rise means for the other players in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We could’ve offered him double his current contract with zero PSR issues arising. PSR isn’t what has caused this in terms of his contract. You may be right, but I wonder what raising his contract would do in terms of clauses in other players contracts and the likelihood of a large portion of them rising thus taking us potentially dangerously close the imposed limit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footysteve Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Elric said: He (or more likely his agent) have 100% fucked us with the timing of this, like. Ah well, 26/27 PSR spreadsheet champions it is You sound delusional, mate. This was always the likely outcome… If we can still get 120ish M for him, I would snap at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Armchair Pundit said: No, that'll be Liverpool, they must have at least £300m of the Coutinho money left Ah, I was counting the clubs to which the rules actually apply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallowghoul Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: We can't unfortunately, we can't catch up so we never have such a strong position to negotiate from. Same way Real dusted Liverpool We literally have the coutinho case study. Buy well now with 200 / 250 m and it will make us a stronger squad. it's a kick in the stones, but it's an opportunity howe will want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 We get the maximum we possibly can for him or let him sit in the reserves until he pulls himself together. Fuck the money and fuck the glass ceiling hustle. Make a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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