Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[Andy]

9 minutes ago, Pandamninator said:

You sure seem desperate for us to get bent over by Liverpool.

 

What he's said is probably correct though, the transfer will very likely go through. It seems clear that by signing one striker on Friday and by continuing to chase others across the weekend, that the club are actively pursuing the sale. If we didn't want to sell him, we'd just sit on our hands and wait it out. 

[buzz]

59 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

 

 

 

 I love how utterly braindead the internet is now 

[Wandy]

2 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

 Nah think as an every-game fan he wants someone who has deliberately fucked the club in open public view to be spat out as soon as possible, personally. 

 

Problem is the fans with these views will be fucking themselves over the most if they get their wish and the player departs. And I'd bet they'd be upset more than most when watching Isak score hatfuls and winning trophies galore for the dippers.

[Joe1984]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

 

What he's said is probably correct though, the transfer will very likely go through. It seems clear that by signing one striker on Friday and by actively continuing to chase others across the weekend, that the club are actively pursuing the sale. If we didn't want to sell him, we'd just sit on our hands and wait it out. 

Or, and hear me out, the club have no intention in selling and are signing strikers so we have someone to play that position.

 

Meanwhile Isak is left training on his own until January or next summer.

[bobbydazzla]

11 minutes ago, Paully said:

I don’t want someone who has took the piss out of our club, Eddie and his team, the players and most importantly our fans who are paying money to watch us whilat our best player is on strike and refusing to play. 
 

Fuck the rat. 

Mate, tens of thousands of fans were willing to keep going season after season and ploughing their money in as Ashley ripped the heart and soul out of the club 

I’m not defending Isak, I agree that he’s a rat and I’d want him gone for the right money to a club outside of the PL
 

But have some perspective and let’s be realistic about how little fuss our fans are actually likely to cause him if he stays and ever pulls on a shirt again 

 

 

 

Edited August 31, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Pearljam10]

[Andy]

Just now, Joe1984 said:

Or, and hear me out, the club have no intention in selling and are signing strikers so we have someone to play that position.

 

Meanwhile Isak is left training on his own until January or next summer.

 

Sounds great as an angry fan, but it makes little sense for a business to spend fortunes on a dead asset. Our owners are ultimately businessmen. 

[Wandy]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

Mate, tens of thousands of fans were willing to keep going season after season and ploughing their money in as Ashley ripped the heart and soul out of the club 

I’m not defending Isak, I agree that he’s a rat and I’d want him gone for the right money to a club outside of the PL
 

But have some perspective and let’s be realistic about how little fuss our fans are actually likely to cause him if he stays 

 

 

The idea that the club will give away a £150m asset cos 1000 or so away fans sang a nasty song about him is utterly delusional.

[Theregulars]

6 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

Problem is the fans with these views will be fucking themselves over the most if they get their wish and the player departs. And I'd bet they'd be upset more than most when watching Isak score hatfuls and winning trophies galore for the dippers.

I think both views are logical, and both correct, in their own ways. For many people the behaviour is irredeemable, for many people the precedent is the most important, for others the most important is getting the most money and reinvesting it astutely. Nobody’s really wrong - which is what makes it such an awful situation. 
 

The point I was trying to make is that trying to equate defending the club and vocalising completely justified anger is not automatically tantamount to being wilfully indifferent to the club’s fortunes moving forward. There are things in life which can be deemed unforgivable, for many fans (especially travelling and paying every day fans) a red line has been broken (loyalty to the club and decency of conduct). 
 

I think as many others have set out better than me, the emotional side of this is every bit as important as the financial. What’s the point in competitive regional sport otherwise? 

 

 

Edited August 31, 2025 by Theregulars

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

Sounds great as an angry fan, but it makes little sense for a business to spend fortunes on a dead asset. Our owners are ultimately businessmen. 

 

We could easily sell Isak in January or next summer for more than £110m though. There'll be more clubs in the mix you would imagine. 

[Joe1984]

6 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

Sounds great as an angry fan, but it makes little sense for a business to spend fortunes on a dead asset. Our owners are ultimately businessmen. 

Oh I know.

 

But the Saudis don't want to look like they've been lowballed.

 

Be interesting to see where Isak ends up.

 

29 hours left...

 

 

Edited August 31, 2025 by Joe1984

[TheHoob]

Probably the funniest outcome at this point is Liverpool not bothering to come back with another bid so fingers crossed. 

[joeyt]

Just now, Joe1984 said:

Oh I know.

 

But the Saudis don't to look like they've been lowballed.

 

Be interesting to see where Isak ends up.

 

27 hours left...

 

29 hours

[Jewel]

5 hours ago, Craig said:

I'm torn, want the guy out the club but is a part of me dreaming of seeing an Isak + Woltemade partnership even if it's just for a short period. Think Gordon, Elanga, Isak, Woltemade, with Bruno, Tonali, Joelinton on the field at the same time, I shouldn't do it to myself.

 

 

 

What a team we could have had if the rat hadn't started acting up.

[Pandamninator]

10 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

What he's said is probably correct though, the transfer will very likely go through. It seems clear that by signing one striker on Friday and by continuing to chase others across the weekend, that the club are actively pursuing the sale. If we didn't want to sell him, we'd just sit on our hands and wait it out. 

Even without the Isak circus another striker was always going to be a summer priority due to Wilson turning into a 55 year old seemingly overnight, the new Champions League format and Isak burning out towards the end of the year again.

 

Woltemade just gets us back to par on striker depth.  Isak going needs at least one, probably two more striker signings - and the Scousers are leaking they don't want to stump up the cash to enable that.

 

 

Edited August 31, 2025 by Pandamninator

[Joe1984]

Just now, joeyt said:

 

29 hours

28 hours and 36 minutes to be exact. 😅

 

[Andy]

1 minute ago, TheHoob said:

Probably the funniest outcome at this point is Liverpool not bothering to come back with another bid so fingers crossed. 

 

Completely fucking our relationship with him while not actually wanting to sign him sounds right up their street. 

[bobbydazzla]

7 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

Sounds great as an angry fan, but it makes little sense for a business to spend fortunes on a dead asset. Our owners are ultimately businessmen. 

The exact same argument applies the other way

 

It makes little sense for an astute businessman to sell an asset for under market value, to a competitor, in a one horse race, after being manipulated into that position by that competitor 

 

They’ve been forced to weaken their financial position whilst also weakening their reputation and standing in the industry, whilst also strengthening a competitor.

 

They’ll get a short term boost to the balance sheet but beyond that they’ve fucked themselves over 

 

 

Edited August 31, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Keegans Export]

I'll not criticise any fan who just wants him gone, I get it.

 

To me though, it's like having a kid who wants an ice cream. He's kicking and screaming, generally just being a little shit. You can do the easy thing, give in and let him have the ice cream. Short-term you feel much better, problem solved, but the long-term effect has the potential to be much worse.

 

If he stays, plays and scores he'll have 50k celebrating because his goals benefit the wider football club.

[Andy]

Just now, Pandamninator said:

Even without the Isak circus another striker was always going to be a summer priority due to Wilson turning into a 55 year old seemingly overnight, the new Champions League format and Isak burning out towards the end of the year again.

 

Woltemade just gets us back to par on striker depth.

 

I'd love that to be the case, but I doubt Woltemade has come here to be Isak's backup. If he's signed, it's likely with assurances that he's his replacement. 

[Joe1984]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

 

I'd love that to be the case, but I doubt Woltemade has come here to be Isak's backup. If he's signed, it's likely with assurances that he's his replacement. 

Or Isak is now the back up. 😅

[TheHoob]

Replacement doesn't have to be immediate I would guess though, in the same way I'm pretty sure we were buying Ekitike as a long term replacement for Isak, with the thought he'd be off in Jan or next summer. 

[TK-421]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

 

I'd love that to be the case, but I doubt Woltemade has come here to be Isak's backup. If he's signed, it's likely with assurances that he's his replacement. 

So, if we don't get the 2nd striker in, the Isak becomes Wilsons replacement. Might be available as much he was anyway!

[Pandamninator]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

 

I'd love that to be the case, but I doubt Woltemade has come here to be Isak's backup. If he's signed, it's likely with assurances that he's his replacement. 

Woltemade played as part of a striker pair in Stuttgart - and Howe has been flirting with a two striker formation for a while now.

 

You are also dying on a hill here that you expect the Saudis to gladly get fucked over on the transfer fee of their most valuable asset.

[Wandy]

2 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

I think both views are logically, and both correct, in their own ways. For many people the behaviour is irredeemable, for many people the precedent is the most important, for others the most important is getting the most money and reinvesting it astutely. Nobody’s really wrong - which is what makes it such an awful situation. 
 

The point I was trying to make is that trying to equate defending the club and vocalising completely justified anger is not automatically tantamount to being wilfully indifferent to the club’s fortunes moving forward. There are things in life which can be deemed unforgivable, for many fans (especially travelling and paying every day fans) a red line has been broken (loyalty to the club and decency of conduct). 
 

I think as many others have set out better than me, the emotional side of this is every bit as important as the financial. What’s the point in competitive regional sport otherwise? 

 

Fans who are letting their rage override everything are being played like a fiddle by the player, his agent and LFC. Their reaction is exactly what those parties want. No doubt in the minds of those fans the player departure will feel like a win in the short term but in the long term it will feel crushing. A bit like a blinding high off necking a class A drug only to later have the grimmest of comedowns when the high has worn off.