Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[dcmk]

1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said:

So I’m not sure whether to post this, but I’ve just had a message saying that one final push to keep him will be pitched to him in the next 24 hours. If that doesn’t go well, expect a deal agreed with Leipzig for Sesko to follow imminently.

Do you know whether this is new contract talk?  Or just asking him to stick around for another year.

 

I guess there would be no plans for Sesko and Isak being part of the same squad, based upon that.

[Vedder]

1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said:

So I’m not sure whether to post this, but I’ve just had a message saying that one final push to keep him will be pitched to him in the next 24 hours. If that doesn’t go well, expect a deal agreed with Leipzig for Sesko to follow imminently.

I don't like the balance of power this approach infers. I'd say 'Alex, if we can get someone in, you can fuck off, otherwise we're stuck together for another season'. 

[JT24]

Just now, gbandit said:

What do you think happens when Isak says no and Sesko then turns us down?

[Vinny Green Balls]

2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

So I’m not sure whether to post this, but I’ve just had a message saying that one final push to keep him will be pitched to him in the next 24 hours. If that doesn’t go well, expect a deal agreed with Leipzig for Sesko to follow imminently.

if there is any truth, frankly they shouldn't have to pitch anything to him right now given his apparent behavior. He should be getting a dressing down for acting this way, but still with the bridge intact. No matter what he decides, we should get a quality striker in. It is also more leverage against him if he thinks we are ok with benching him.

[Checko]

1 minute ago, gbandit said:

What do you think happens when Isak says no and Sesko then turns us down?

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, JT24 said:

throw a lifetime supply of vaseline into the contract, and I think we've got him.

[The College Dropout]

8 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

So I’m not sure whether to post this, but I’ve just had a message saying that one final push to keep him will be pitched to him in the next 24 hours. If that doesn’t go well, expect a deal agreed with Leipzig for Sesko to follow imminently.

This is all very weird.  He has a contract. We don’t need his permission. 

[Elliottman]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

This is all very weird.  He has a contract. We don’t need his permission. 

He’s the most sought after striker on the planet and is likely being offered to double his wage. We don’t NEED his permission, but it makes absolute sense to try and bargain with him if we want him to stay another year while we sort a replacement. We’d need his head in the right place, if that’s an extra £50k and a release clause then so be it. 

[The College Dropout]

Just now, Elliottman said:

He’s the most sought after striker on the planet and is likely being offered to double his wage. We don’t NEED his permission, but it makes absolute sense to try and bargain with him if we want him to stay another year while we sort a replacement. We’d need his head in the right place, if that’s an extra £50k and a release clause then so be it. 

I agree we do what we can. But we use our existing leverage.  We don’t ask his permission. 

[Unbelievable]

1 minute ago, Elliottman said:

He’s the most sought after striker on the planet and is likely being offered to double his wage. We don’t NEED his permission, but it makes absolute sense to try and bargain with him if we want him to stay another year while we sort a replacement. We’d need his head in the right place, if that’s an extra £50k and a release clause then so be it. 

Fuck that

[Fak]

14 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

So I’m not sure whether to post this, but I’ve just had a message saying that one final push to keep him will be pitched to him in the next 24 hours. If that doesn’t go well, expect a deal agreed with Leipzig for Sesko to follow imminently.

 

Has Sesko even given us the go-ahead?

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

I agree we do what we can. But we use our existing leverage.  We don’t ask his permission. 

and we have plenty of leverage.

[andycap]

What could we possibly offer him? 

 

[Elliottman]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

I agree we do what we can. But we use our existing leverage.  We don’t ask his permission. 

I don’t think it’s permission -  it’s give and take, negotiation. If he stays we want his head right and him at his best levels. Whatever we think of him, if he stays we need him absolutely on it. 

[Elliottman]

Just now, andycap said:

What could we possibly offer him? 

 

More money, a get out next Summer, M+S gift voucher. 

[Andy84]

6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

This is all very weird.  He has a contract. We don’t need his permission. 

We need his buy in though. We also need to be putting down £200k plus in front of him to stay for this season 

[Magpie Mover]

37 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Yasir’s role at Newcastle is the same role as Parish for Palace and Levy for Spurs.  
 

He should be involved personally. 

He should be but apparently he isn't. Surely some of this shambolic summer is on PIF?

[duo]

fair comment

 

 

[Unbelievable]

13 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

I don’t think it’s permission -  it’s give and take, negotiation. If he stays we want his head right and him at his best levels. Whatever we think of him, if he stays we need him absolutely on it. 

We get his head right by giving the Wilson replacement a first team spot first few games while he considers how stupidly he’s acted this summer by foregoing pre-season with the rest of the first team. Then when the penny has dropped that he’ll need to perform at his best to get his move next year and do well in the world cup is when he gets his chance to redeem himself and earn the starting place through training and acting like a grown up in the intermediate period. I trust Howe to manage this situation something like this btw. To reward this behaviour would set a terrible precedent. No player is bigger than the club, not even Alexander Isak.

 

 

Edited August 4, 2025 by Unbelievable

[Alberto2005]

3 minutes ago, duo said:

fair comment

 

 

Or perhaps it was because Callum Wilson had it till about 2 months ago.

[Elliottman]

1 minute ago, Unbelievable said:

We get his head right by giving the Wilson replacement a first team spot first few games while he considers hoe stupidly he’s acted this summer, and when the penny has dropped that he’ll need to perform at his best to get his move next year and do well in the world cup is when he gets his chance to redeem himself and earn the starting place through training and acting like a grown up in the intermediate period. I trust Howe to manage this situation something like this btw. To reward this behaviour would set a terrible precedent. No player is bigger than the club, not even Alexander Isak.

I think this is fairytale stuff to be honest, it’s not the real world. You aren’t keeping Isak for another year on the terms he’s on know, it’s absolutely not happening and if it does, you’re not getting the best version of him next year and it’s naive to think otherwise.

 

If he stays, it will be improved terms to compensate for the loss of salary of a move to Liverpool and a release clause, can’t see any other scenario. 

[The College Dropout]

I agree we should get his buy-in but the framing suggests we are asking him.

[Lush Vlad]

6 minutes ago, duo said:

fair comment

 

 

What?!  

 

That’s a tenuous link at best and just looking for something that isn’t there. 
 

Do they not wear 1-11 for internationals? Should he change to 14 every 2-4 years when they qualify for a tournament and it is squad numbers? 
 

Do players, other fans and the media put as much stock in THE FAMOUS NUMBER NINE as some of our fans seemingly do? I doubt it. 

[Unbelievable]

1 minute ago, Elliottman said:

I think this is fairytale stuff to be honest, it’s not the real world. You aren’t keeping Isak for another year on the terms he’s on know, it’s absolutely not happening and if it does, you’re not getting the best version of him next year and it’s naive to think otherwise.

 

If he stays, it will be improved terms to compensate for the loss of salary of a move to Liverpool and a release clause, can’t see any other scenario. 

It’s fairytale stuff to expect someone to honour their fucking contract now is it..?

[Elliottman]

Just now, Unbelievable said:

It’s fairytale stuff to expect someone to honour their fucking contract now is it..?

Dealing with an elite sportsman who is potentially on the verge of one of the biggest transfers in football History…. Yes I would be say it absolutely is.